"The other guys are worse" isn't an argument

Were you fine with the 2040 date @Eccles?

No, Hopix

Not on it's own

Nah I didn't think so

So why is this that much worse

You cannot place a date and ban without making sure the infrastructure is in place, and that you won't be fucking people up - this isn't like banning a certain chemical in food, or a certain refridgerant, you're talking about something that people are utterly reliant on to be -able- to go about their daily life

Yeah it's a good point

So the infrastructure and electric needs to be in place, they need to be down to a price where they're no pricier than now - both new AND the used market

And none of that can happen by 2035

And you all fucking know it

You're just "hoping"

I'm sceptical yeah

HS2 won't be completed until 2036

Then stop ragging on me then, i'm just pointing out what you lot won't because you don't like the opposition

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578828952840306708/674542239002787841/Screenshot_20200205-010813.png

What is the argument, Gaul?

HS2 is irrelevent

Cars are expensive and are for middle class folks

@Eccles Just pointing out that even a single line takes decades to build.

That is his argument

No, cars are currently the cheapest they've ever been and for everyone, even people without jobs

Under the new laws, cars will be only for the middle class

That transition is the thing they're missing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578828952840306708/674542622517362689/Screenshot_20200205-011116.png

That discord sounds like it has aids

"But so is literally every public space"

Cars are to rural poor are like iphones are to urban chavs

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They're an essential part of their life

In an underground train packed with people

You are likely to catch a disease

Without cheap cars, rural poor become jobless and isolated

Than being out in a park

Or walking down the street

Just to point out the problem in explicit terms - the cost of replacing all of the cars in the UK with electric is just a smidgeon over 1 trillion pounds

Not including the infrastructure needed

These arguments to justify banning cars and using public transportation are short sighted

Thatchers probably spinning in her grave over this.

I'm sorry, were those -arguments-?

lol