Message from @Baron Barney of "Monty" the 1st

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2020-02-06 16:47:56 UTC  

sure

2020-02-06 16:48:01 UTC  

the dichotomy is individualism and collectivism

2020-02-06 16:48:09 UTC  

individualism meaning your ideology and collectivism meaning basically everything else

2020-02-06 16:48:10 UTC  

there's just a definition, and a tactic of lefists to try and trick people by bending or just changing definitions of words

2020-02-06 16:48:17 UTC  

get your own terms

2020-02-06 16:48:20 UTC  

it doesnt matter if he created "left wing" or "right wing" terms... since we are talking about the political compass

2020-02-06 16:48:23 UTC  

I arent trying to sound like a shit or anything mate, I'm just saying I could make a graphic representing some concept... but I wouldn't get to redefine the concept

2020-02-06 16:48:32 UTC  

and of course it's misleading as well

2020-02-06 16:48:51 UTC  

it's linguistic inversion

2020-02-06 16:48:55 UTC  

because this definition "individualism" fairly arbitrarily excludes certain forms of collective authority

2020-02-06 16:49:55 UTC  

because again

2020-02-06 16:49:55 UTC  

@wacka the Pelosi speech gave me Corona

2020-02-06 16:49:59 UTC  

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2020-02-06 16:50:04 UTC  

rip

2020-02-06 16:50:07 UTC  

You're basically retarded if your identity with each of those terms

2020-02-06 16:50:13 UTC  

even locke

2020-02-06 16:50:19 UTC  

who would be very right wing by modern standards

2020-02-06 16:50:20 UTC  

Or associate it with a political ideology

2020-02-06 16:50:25 UTC  

demanded the collectivization of the state

2020-02-06 16:51:04 UTC  

is that link supposed to poitn me to FAQ #16?

2020-02-06 16:51:18 UTC  
2020-02-06 16:51:20 UTC  

collectivised states don't work well, they work better as a pseudo-executive

2020-02-06 16:51:32 UTC  

i mean that's what you support isn't it

2020-02-06 16:51:35 UTC  

do you support a republic?

2020-02-06 16:51:49 UTC  

do you think the legitimacy of the state rests on the consent of the governed?

2020-02-06 16:51:55 UTC  

i don't have strong views either way

2020-02-06 16:52:02 UTC  

do you think the state should be subject to laws passed by representatives elected by its citizens?

2020-02-06 16:52:18 UTC  

but a constitution and transparent processes with objective standards that people can hold them to are vital

2020-02-06 16:52:22 UTC  

and why our governments are so shit

2020-02-06 16:52:29 UTC  

because they don't have either

2020-02-06 16:52:31 UTC  

and who interprets the constitution

2020-02-06 16:52:47 UTC  

an objective constitution doesn't require much interpretation

2020-02-06 16:53:10 UTC  

yeah right

2020-02-06 16:53:17 UTC  

a precedent-led interpretation works fine

2020-02-06 16:53:45 UTC  

this sort of idea always means kritarchy

2020-02-06 16:54:03 UTC  

precisely because there will always be an institution that interprets law

2020-02-06 16:54:26 UTC  

endless reinterpretation of laws and principles guarantees rights get undermined and you end up with communism

2020-02-06 16:54:32 UTC  

which is why your sort pushes it so heavily