Message from @Greasy

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2020-02-10 12:49:54 UTC  

but direct democracy is the only true democracy

2020-02-10 12:49:54 UTC  

Not an outdated system that only worked when we had autonomy in each constituency

2020-02-10 12:49:57 UTC  

HEY

2020-02-10 12:49:58 UTC  

HEY

2020-02-10 12:50:02 UTC  

why are you anti democracy?

2020-02-10 12:50:17 UTC  

lets go full on this and have a direct democracy

2020-02-10 12:50:40 UTC  

Well I see you are trolling now

2020-02-10 12:50:47 UTC  

used to be, that local voting was far more important than parliament voting and everyone could vote locally.. even pauper women

2020-02-10 12:50:51 UTC  

because it's a stupid argument

2020-02-10 12:50:55 UTC  

How(

2020-02-10 12:51:00 UTC  

Wanting a fairer voting system

2020-02-10 12:51:03 UTC  

no true scotsman

2020-02-10 12:51:11 UTC  

Doesn’t mean wanting a fucking referendum on everything

2020-02-10 12:51:22 UTC  

well it's not a democracy

2020-02-10 12:51:24 UTC  

everyone could directly vote locally for things that directly effected them

2020-02-10 12:51:25 UTC  

We will still have a REPRESENTATIVE democracy

2020-02-10 12:51:31 UTC  

nah that's not a democracy

2020-02-10 12:51:34 UTC  

you see how this works?

2020-02-10 12:51:36 UTC  

But the REPRESENTATIVES will be elected more faith

2020-02-10 12:51:39 UTC  

Fairly *

2020-02-10 12:51:39 UTC  

you want representative? It is unlike preferential voting in Australia where voters indicate their preferences and votes are distributed until there are two candidates left and the one with the most votes wins.

Take the Scottish seat of North East Fife, held by the Scottish National Party (SNP) by the thinnest of margins: two votes.

In the 2017 election, SNP candidate Stephen Gethins won the seat with 13,743 votes — or 32.9 per cent of the vote.

The rival Liberal Democrats polled 13,741 and the Conservative Party came in third with 10,088.

That means the votes of the 66 per cent who didn't cast a vote for the SNP didn't "count".

2020-02-10 12:51:41 UTC  

we have a parliamentry democracy

2020-02-10 12:51:52 UTC  

you're asking for a different one by calling the current one not a democracy

2020-02-10 12:51:54 UTC  

^^ I ripped a quote out an article

2020-02-10 12:51:56 UTC  

and it wasnt secret voting either... there are voting cards from 1843 with peoples names on

2020-02-10 12:51:56 UTC  

Greasy

2020-02-10 12:51:59 UTC  

That is my point

2020-02-10 12:52:07 UTC  

Those votes now have 0 representation

2020-02-10 12:52:11 UTC  

It’s like they never existed

2020-02-10 12:52:17 UTC  

but yours is not a democracy either, by the definition that you're using

2020-02-10 12:52:34 UTC  

so lets go full nuke on this and have a direct democracy if you're so worried about that

2020-02-10 12:52:36 UTC  

I said the same thing when it happened to UKIP

2020-02-10 12:52:42 UTC  

and some people got more "votes" than others... like one woman got 4 votes, because she owned a chain of butchers (this was on the 1843 voting card)

2020-02-10 12:52:43 UTC  

So it’s not just me wanting Lib Dem’s to do well

2020-02-10 12:52:49 UTC  

yes it is

2020-02-10 12:52:54 UTC  

I just want the two party system shaken up

2020-02-10 12:53:06 UTC  

It's not about redrawing borders of voting districts, it's about having a 'less worse' outcome for the majority

2020-02-10 12:53:08 UTC  

you applying your ideas consistently doesn't stop you from just wanting lib dems to do well

2020-02-10 12:53:17 UTC  

But it’s not lmao

2020-02-10 12:53:17 UTC  

these are not mutually exclusive

2020-02-10 12:53:21 UTC  

lmfao