Message from @ETBrooD

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2020-02-22 22:06:07 UTC  

If that was the case maybe the situation would be better, but there's a lot of information that's behind massive paywalls for the public, but "freely" accessible to students and scholars

2020-02-22 22:06:23 UTC  

Even though it's not free, they get subsidized

2020-02-22 22:06:37 UTC  

yeah thats true. but you can get info that's not on pay walls

2020-02-22 22:06:58 UTC  

Yeah but none of the good stuff, because they want to maintain their monopoly on knowledge

2020-02-22 22:07:34 UTC  

i think it's just better education methods rather than knowledge

2020-02-22 22:08:14 UTC  

What makes their education methods good in any way? Most students have an extremely low retention rate into their adult years.

2020-02-22 22:08:49 UTC  

That statement should be "if you dont practice you forget"

2020-02-22 22:09:17 UTC  

It's not that simple. Teachers are trained in very poor quality education methods, like lecturing.

2020-02-22 22:09:34 UTC  

Yet they get paid ungodly amounts for that low quality effort.

2020-02-22 22:09:52 UTC  

And that by tax money, not by private donors or consumers.

2020-02-22 22:10:23 UTC  

Yeah i don't disagree with you there. You'll be called a racist for saying that xD

2020-02-22 22:10:47 UTC  

Yeah I guess in the US that'd be the case, fortunately I'm Austrian.

2020-02-22 22:11:57 UTC  

even private schools.. they they aint private. Anything that gets goverment funding directly isn't private

2020-02-22 22:12:35 UTC  

Yeah

2020-02-22 22:13:24 UTC  

There are even worse cases of private schools for migrant children where they don't even have to teach the national curriculum while receiving subsidization, it's messed up.

2020-02-22 22:13:48 UTC  

My dad used to teach at one of those.

2020-02-22 22:14:42 UTC  

There's really only one solution, people must create a database of general knowledge and recent scientific papers.

2020-02-22 22:15:00 UTC  

Like wiki, but for profit, and without any state subsidization.

2020-02-22 22:15:23 UTC  

They must also create a student-teacher network around that platform.

2020-02-22 22:15:36 UTC  

there should be multiple of them to force competition

2020-02-22 22:15:51 UTC  

Exactly.

2020-02-22 22:16:07 UTC  

The problem is, however, that public schools drive the prices of those private organizations up.

2020-02-22 22:16:38 UTC  

So I don't know what the solution is tbh.

2020-02-22 22:16:44 UTC  

it's like that in every thing tho. even in health care. food

2020-02-22 22:17:27 UTC  

everything that the goverment touches. kinda weird. I've spoke about this with the both of you before and you both disagreed with me. Don't know why you changed your mind

2020-02-22 22:18:10 UTC  

Maybe you're mistaking me for someone else? I've been against public education for years.

2020-02-22 22:18:35 UTC  

i think the solution would be 2 steps. stop making school attendance mandatory. and then cut all funding to every school. it will be hell for the first few years but it will get better

2020-02-22 22:19:11 UTC  

there are better ways. but that's just the quickest one

2020-02-22 22:19:24 UTC  

They'll never do any of that, it'd be a career killer for the vast majority of politicians.

2020-02-22 22:19:56 UTC  

Sorry guys, have you two discussed **opportunity cost**, yet?

2020-02-22 22:20:08 UTC  

In what context?

2020-02-22 22:20:42 UTC  

Looong formation time and lack of practical experience vs Homeschooling

2020-02-22 22:21:06 UTC  

Pardon?

2020-02-22 22:21:22 UTC  

I'm not following, sorry

2020-02-22 22:21:28 UTC  

me either

2020-02-22 22:21:38 UTC  

So a child that can read and is mature emotionally can study higher stuff

2020-02-22 22:21:55 UTC  

Start and finish school sooner

2020-02-22 22:22:11 UTC  

Any better?

2020-02-22 22:22:15 UTC  

school shouldn't be a place to become emotionally mature. that should be at home

2020-02-22 22:22:25 UTC  

I can follow now. What's your argument?

2020-02-22 22:22:29 UTC  

Yes, true