Yeah i'm skeptical about the freemarket aswell. I can see someone coming along that offers these schools money to teach things. (not the goverment). It could be a business or a person with an agenda. If they can get more money what would stop them from doing so.

Also i think there would be less teachers but more better quilty teachers. If the teacher fails the school fails as they loose students.

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Heck, even the church could run schools better in the 16th century 😸

Hahaha scary but true

*Yeah i'm skeptical about the freemarket aswell.*

Me too, bc of the **human condition** (greed, sloth, env...) .

*It could be a business or a person with an agenda.*

And here we enter nuances. Ie. : if the owner of a small to moderate operations' voluntary CEO and class giver was a biiig family man or woman (idc) then -... Perhaps a *maybe* let's try because we have working ones already.

In that system, market inefficiency is awarded with continuous rejection until improvements are achieved and that's it.

All the magic.

Do work, get paid accordingly. The better you are at it and can market it, the more you lift everyone around with your quality / price / reliability contributions. That simple and constantly adapting the provided to the customers' real needs direct. @Kingy200

You also have to compete more as there are more schools. Which means the pay for teachers would go up? Which means more people with higher IQ's see the pay and move to become a teacher. The shiity teachers move to the bad schools because of pay but the quiltiy over time of teaching teachers go up thus even the education in the shiity school goes up over time

In the end give it 40 years and the pay will stabilize

that evidence is based off programmers (over paid for what it is but pay is going down now for shiity programmers)

Oh, not just liveable wages but TEACHERS and real EDUCATORS people who are naturally apt to do it.

Yes, I don't really know what's the ladder or businesses opportunity being a programmer...

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What do you think the government has as an incentive to allow for such schools to give out medical and law and theology degrees?

Goverment will increase the cost and lower the quality if they do

the question is, would it become easier to become a doctor or lawyer. I think if u do the same with hospitals it would

I'm not sure if they do it consciously, I think it's rather the nature of any parasitic relationship.

That's also partly why I mentioned the human condition earlier.

I think we best operate in smaller ad more woven communities

I'd like to think that, at least that's what empirical evidence tells me

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Is it true than, that any such thing cannot exist only if it has the same self governing right locally?

(like the government enjoys now)

https://abload.de/img/galaxybraind4kwz.jpg

honestly i think it could become a massive problem if its locally. i think state would be better

@ETBrooD
I'm glad you popped in you've had some good ideas the last time we spoke about this

I think nothing will change, schools will remain shit

I think state and local can work together yeah

I consider the education system hopeless. What must happen is that people spread information outside of the system, thus making it irrelevant.

Education must become as cheaply and easily available as sugar

Education is the cost of an internet connection

No not really unfortunately

i dont think you got what i'm saying

If that was the case maybe the situation would be better, but there's a lot of information that's behind massive paywalls for the public, but "freely" accessible to students and scholars

Even though it's not free, they get subsidized

yeah thats true. but you can get info that's not on pay walls

Yeah but none of the good stuff, because they want to maintain their monopoly on knowledge

i think it's just better education methods rather than knowledge

What makes their education methods good in any way? Most students have an extremely low retention rate into their adult years.

That statement should be "if you dont practice you forget"

It's not that simple. Teachers are trained in very poor quality education methods, like lecturing.

Yet they get paid ungodly amounts for that low quality effort.

And that by tax money, not by private donors or consumers.

Yeah i don't disagree with you there. You'll be called a racist for saying that xD

Yeah I guess in the US that'd be the case, fortunately I'm Austrian.