No, they were.

I mean, it wasn’t, communism is impossible

Nothing, in the real world, fits Marx's idea because Marx had no understanding of the world.

Sure, so the only reason the USSR ended up looking like Nazi Germany is because Nazi Germany was more based in reality?

Whatever deviations existed were due to human imperfections. The ideals that motivated the Bolshevik Revolution and the brutal killing of the Tsar family were motivated by Marx's Communism and would be impossible were there a Fascist revolution instead.

No. They both turned out murderous and dehumanizing because that is the nature of socialism.

It is like talking to a brick wall lmao

Yeah

Anyway, I gtg for now

Cya

In that when your ideology strikes a wall it is not the wall that gives....

So the only reason nazis were violent was because of a economic doctrine? That’s interesting

Maybe if Hitler was a free market type, he would have had his realm without firing a single shot

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Because of ideology. Socialists do not recognize the human nature of production. They see it as some natural phenomena that can be harnessed and directed by the state. This leads to envisioning people and things in a certain way. And that leads to the violence.

Exactly, if Hitler only realized this and abandoned his retarded market ideas. Then there wouldn’t have been any violence.

I don't see how that is possible. Outside of the thought that if Hitler were not Hitler he would not have been Hitler. I took that as a given.....

Yeah I agree, if Hitler adopted free markets there wouldn’t have been a Second World War.

still would of happened. Even if hitler did that

I forgot what the word is but they had to give money to acouple or afew countries for ww1

not only that alot of countries were suffering after the war aswell

Technically true. Hitler, like all socialists, was an abject failure in the market and likely would have died in obscurity...

War isn't something that happens when peace fails, peace is something that happens when groups or individuals are preventing war. World war 2 would've happened, whether germany was socialist, communist, or even capitalist

There was a lot of forced labor (i.e. slavery) under Hitler. And slavery contradicts capitalism because slaves have no freedom, instead they're treated like they're means of production, not workers with agency. Hitler justified that with his collectivist ideology (fascism): "it's for the good of the people" (where else have we heard that before). Essentially Hitler had gulags under a few different names.

Even the German people did not have a free market, as evidenced by a number of things, for example the suppression of speech. Without free speech there is no free market.

Hitler's fascism was entirely collectivist, and under collectivism there is no capitalism. This is the simple reason why Nazism can only be considered one of two things: authoritarian socialist, or authoritarian centrist.

Hitler's slogan "Arbeit macht frei" was a deliberate attempt at masking the cruelty of the slavery going on in the Third Reich.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rule_during_World_War_II
https://blodveger.info/?page_id=538

It was, in every sense of the word, Neusprech (newspeak)

A lot of book burning happened in the Third Reich, too, which is another offense to capitalism.

The corporations didn't exactly "belong" in any real sense of the word to the people, they were heavily directed by Nazi agents.

Basically Stalin would've been proud of Hitler if they hadn't been enemies due to their competition for land.

Even "Hitler's Autobahn" is a myth
https://www.dw.com/en/the-myth-of-hitlers-role-in-building-the-autobahn/a-16144981

Hitler was a parasite, not an inventor, not a creator. He could only steal (ironically, since that's what he accused the Jews of).

"Nothing is truly German" when?

A lot of things are, just not things from Hitler 🙂

He only gave people war and oppression, although some of his paintings are rather nice.

and what was the alternative after WW1?

The economy was already recovering

Yes Germany was being exploited unfairly, but things were looking up, there was no reason to go to war.

you can tell that to US as well

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