Message from @ryvergate

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2020-02-19 08:29:54 UTC  

You'd need multiple people involved, more likely there would be a whistle blower

2020-02-19 08:30:19 UTC  

Electronic voting you can use a bot and 1 guy

2020-02-19 08:30:47 UTC  

you misunderstand how difficult it is to hack a properly secured system

2020-02-19 08:30:47 UTC  

It’s an impossibly difficult system to account for. Imagine saving your paper receipts for the year and counting the cost.

2020-02-19 08:30:55 UTC  

Compare that to an e-statement.

2020-02-19 08:31:03 UTC  

One’s much more prone to manipulation.

2020-02-19 08:31:13 UTC  

with e voting you could realistically give real time votes

2020-02-19 08:31:16 UTC  

@Papa John's Day of Reckoning not saying hacking, those who made the app can do this

2020-02-19 08:31:25 UTC  

thats difficult to change real time votes

2020-02-19 08:31:40 UTC  

yeah it was broward county, seems that place is a scuffed shit hole:

2020-02-19 08:31:46 UTC  

Hey, I may be wrong.

2020-02-19 08:31:51 UTC  

Yeah dems push app. Cries about Russian hacking. Just wait

2020-02-19 08:31:57 UTC  

they did the hanging chads, the school shooter, and the delayed vote count

2020-02-19 08:32:06 UTC  

you can get unnafiliated third parties to create the app, there are ways around this

2020-02-19 08:32:16 UTC  

im no expert in app making

2020-02-19 08:32:22 UTC  

Get Russia to make the app

2020-02-19 08:32:23 UTC  

or really anything in general

2020-02-19 08:32:29 UTC  

Voting is literally the only thing I would always do on paper

2020-02-19 08:32:31 UTC  

Its not really that hard, you'd just need a few minutes delay between the actual vote taking place and them being revealed @Papa John's Day of Reckoning

2020-02-19 08:32:38 UTC  

But a paper system with no voter ID, absentee ballots, no way to validate your vote, and county-by-county counting seems immensely more fucked.

2020-02-19 08:32:38 UTC  

Safest way by far

2020-02-19 08:32:52 UTC  

but securing an app is not difficult

2020-02-19 08:33:18 UTC  

I'd like to see America have more than 2 fucking parties, it might solve your divided mentality

2020-02-19 08:33:35 UTC  

The problem here is your acting like paper ballots are more secure than e-votes.

2020-02-19 08:33:54 UTC  

paper ballots cant use biometrics to secure them

2020-02-19 08:34:01 UTC  

Separate the sane lefties and righties from the nutters

2020-02-19 08:34:04 UTC  

you guys are talking about hacking.... i think a sufficiently motivated government agency would straight up manipulate the voting results from inside the system after having actual access, just to prevent another trump lets say

2020-02-19 08:34:15 UTC  

Remember check fraud? There’s a reason it’s virtually non-exist at in today’s age.

2020-02-19 08:34:18 UTC  

you can design the app so that it cannot be modified

2020-02-19 08:34:36 UTC  

You can design an app with a back door entrance

2020-02-19 08:34:43 UTC  

imagine making an app that inputs votes and once the vote is inputted you cannot change iut

2020-02-19 08:34:51 UTC  

And you can bribe someone to fuck up a count

2020-02-19 08:34:53 UTC  

thats why you have third party organizations verify the app

2020-02-19 08:35:00 UTC  

Or just have incompetent counters.

2020-02-19 08:35:20 UTC  

@Mersenne like i said before that involves multiple people, a money trail etc
Actual evidence

2020-02-19 08:35:52 UTC  

Americans currently can’t verify that their ballot was cast for their candidate.

2020-02-19 08:35:57 UTC  

That’s the problem.

2020-02-19 08:36:07 UTC  

if the digital system leaves digital footprints then maybe id trust it more

2020-02-19 08:36:14 UTC  

you know what else has actual evidence? electronic systems. ip tracking, oauth, systems check, files checks

2020-02-19 08:36:17 UTC  

course bleachbit and hammers can fuck that up too

2020-02-19 08:36:25 UTC  

You can delete electronic data easily enough, "oops, all the evidence vanished because our servers crashed"