they're scientifically conducted

peer reviewed

the whole nine yards

it's not how many successfully commit suicide, it's actually how many ATTEMPT it iirc

Human beings are *complex* creatures with a whole myriad of interacting factors.

41% is post gender reassignment surgery. The brain doesn't deal well with zero sexual organs and spirals into suicidal tendencies.

25% is the real statistic for pre-operation transwomen, which is still high.

if you still want to go through with this and not seek help, that's fine, as long as you fully understand the ramifications of your actions and the risks involved

no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534386980390174720/680616707299344408/video0.mp4

Again, read above.

it's actually the same before and after surgery

based on the leading statistics

Citation.

the video above for one

Unless they've not bothered to separate the two.

but for the sake of argument let's assume you're correct, 25% is still ridiculously high

as far as i can tell transgenderism is a lie

Oh absolutely.

https://www.sprc.org/racial-ethnic-disparities
this is pretty spicy tbh

I don't doubt that for a second.

like you need professional help man

I did have professional help.

probably some nutjob like my cousin saw who told her to do what makes her happy

what good did that do her

The big problem people fail to see, is that transitioning *is* the therapy for GID/GD. It's the one road that has the lowest amount of serious issues afterward.

no it's not

GID doesn't go away, but it can be reduced to a healthy standard.

Mutilating your genitals instead of curing the mental disorder isn't that smart an idea.

the root problem is depression and a chemical imbalance in the brain

Most trans girls I know don't want to mutilate themselves. I've never even met a transwoman who is willing.

let's stray from anecdotals

they don't matter

what matter is the facts

except apparently higher suicide rate afterwards <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Almost like a human instinct to realise that self-harm isn't the solution.

ya exactly

Infact, I'd wager that the only people who do surgery is transtrenders.

if you believe the therapy IS transitioning, why tf is it worse after the surgery?

I'd presume that the rates post-transition are so HIGH is because of how crude our current methods of transitioning are. If we get to a point where we have near-flawless transition methods, there'd probably be a decrease of some kind (though I'm not even sure how much it would decrease, if at all)

That and those who have serious self harm complications as a result of GID.

lol