Message from @NinjaQuick

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2020-02-28 16:11:58 UTC  

@NinjaQuick That's not how statistics work, close to zero does not mean impossible. The universe is almost infinite, it is much more possible for life to occur given that fact.

2020-02-28 16:11:58 UTC  

and isnt alive on mars

2020-02-28 16:12:04 UTC  

No

2020-02-28 16:12:19 UTC  

My point is remove earth from the equation and it is zero.

2020-02-28 16:12:19 UTC  

As far as you know

2020-02-28 16:12:20 UTC  

the universe is infinite

2020-02-28 16:12:26 UTC  

Life on earth might have came

2020-02-28 16:12:27 UTC  

the observable universe is not

2020-02-28 16:12:29 UTC  

From other place

2020-02-28 16:12:47 UTC  

for there to be an edge to the universe, there would also have to be a barrier, which there just isnt, there couldnt be.

2020-02-28 16:12:57 UTC  

Tbh, alot of Archeobacteria arrives on earth all the time from Comets and meteors. On Europa, the satellite we have in orbit has caught microbes on the camera lens from water jets spraying water up into the upper edges of atmosphere on the camera.

2020-02-28 16:12:59 UTC  

Probably there's just no way to do FTL and we'll just never meet any other species

2020-02-28 16:13:06 UTC  

Literally in a million years

2020-02-28 16:13:27 UTC  

You can try to argue how stats work but the fact is we have one sample, and it is here, excluding it we have zero

2020-02-28 16:13:28 UTC  

there probably is life out there in other solar systems

2020-02-28 16:13:34 UTC  

but we have no way of being certain it exists

2020-02-28 16:13:39 UTC  

so its not certain there is other life

2020-02-28 16:13:47 UTC  

That's a pretty stupid metric ninja

2020-02-28 16:13:50 UTC  

and there is no credible evidence to suggest that their is

2020-02-28 16:14:10 UTC  

the bacteria growth that evolved into multicellular organisms can be found in many harsh conditions. There's still a chance that life would propagate else where

2020-02-28 16:14:10 UTC  

So the odds are the amount of time it takes to form a molecular bond, and how many times that time has passed for every atom in the universe since the start of the universe.

2020-02-28 16:14:17 UTC  

excluding the only evidence of something means that its impossible, that does make logical sense, but its also a pointless thing to say

2020-02-28 16:14:18 UTC  

If you just exclude data you want to you can come to any idiot conclusion you want

2020-02-28 16:14:19 UTC  

I mean if you want to go by that logic ninja

2020-02-28 16:14:20 UTC  

Which for our purposes, is immeasurable

2020-02-28 16:14:22 UTC  

You don't exist

2020-02-28 16:14:36 UTC  

No chance of ninja existing

2020-02-28 16:14:38 UTC  

Checks out

2020-02-28 16:14:51 UTC  

The point were making is that until we have any observations of life elsewhere we have to assume we are the only ones.

2020-02-28 16:15:00 UTC  

Then we have to ask why isn't it everywhere.

2020-02-28 16:15:13 UTC  

because it is, we just cant go there

2020-02-28 16:15:21 UTC  

yet

2020-02-28 16:15:28 UTC  

Because it is simpler to consider the Earth is forced to have life, rather than a natural process at that point.

2020-02-28 16:15:31 UTC  

You guys should go to the debate channel

2020-02-28 16:15:37 UTC  

Because either life is universal, or unique.

2020-02-28 16:15:38 UTC  

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2020-02-28 16:15:39 UTC  

the debate channel has slow mode

2020-02-28 16:15:44 UTC  

which isnt suited to this discussion

2020-02-28 16:15:51 UTC  

works better then

2020-02-28 16:15:56 UTC  

What? Why do we have to assume that? It's better to assume that because the universe is huge and old chances are at least someone else exists somewhere as long as we exist