its not a bad option

or don't subject a child to that tbh

Or surrogates is an option too

thats basically adoption with extra steps

I heard it was insanely difficult to adopt. Makes a really good case against abortion.

At least the child would resemble your partner, and if they want kids then they should be happy

I'm scared that my experiences, my spiral of life won't be a good influence. I mean. I'm a really bad edge case. I flunked school, flunked college, flunked everything and hit rock bottom but I now work as a specialist without any formal educational training except a low lying diploma.

well then do your best to correct the spiral before you think about having kids

which everyone should be doing anyway

@Steyr "Thick" Shotgun sounds like my mum tbh

I don't think trans people should be allowed to adopt tbh

@excursion12 (redha, richtginger) you can think what you want

i dont have a problem with trans people, i have a problem with people who push being trans on their kids

theres a difference

I can think in terms of reality

isntead of perpetuating a delusion

I've got no career except some english teaching experience and I'm making games. I probably shouldn't have kids but I've given myself a 2 year time limit to just do it anyway.

as long as they are responsible parents, i have no issue

Teaching my kid that university isn't important, that experience is worth it's weight in gold. How to woodwork, shoot, weld and get them interested in trades because if nothing else they'll have job security.

dont teach them that it isnt important then

I guess it's tru what they say about there not being any girls on the internet <:smugon:512048583806025739>

teach them that people can make mistakes and correct them

Steyr that is good thinking.

it's not about the competence of the parent frankly, its the simple fact of bringing a kid into an environment that will instantly confuse them

University is the trick to being in debt by government.

You only go if it's necessary.

yeah

As much as I detest communism, I think the USSR had a point in lionizing motherhood

why would you ever go if it isnt? lmao

You go if you want to be a doctor or engineer. Most jobs no.

@Steyr "Thick" Shotgun don't hold solid goals for a kid like that, they might hate stuff like woodwork and stuff, they might be a nerd or something

I'm a nerd and i love that shit.

But you're right.

I want to provide the option.

"GLORY TO THE MOTHER HEROINE!"

If my kid isn't a gamer I will give them away.

By all means teach them it but don't expect them to go into that industry

That's not my goal.

Yeah holy shit, especially when death rate for pregnancy was much higher, women should be regarded like soldiers.

I just want them to have a good foundation.

You should get a victoria cross for having many children.