between local and federal gubmints

and you want federal gubmint gibs

One of those things doesn't make you a socialist but when they accumulate the more you have of them the closer you are to socialism

tis socialist tbh

I am not.

pensions arent inherently socialist

but wanting gubmint pensions is

epecially gubmint pensions for everyone

if you ere a government employee and earned a pension go nuts

open-borders is an extremist point of view

but gubmint gibs for all is socialist

There can be private pensions. But that's not what we're talking about

We're talking about mandatory government pension funded by taxes

ye thats socialist

like social security?

socialist

@ubermensch you mean communist

and the thing is

things like social security

I believe nations exist

will probably die with our generation anyway

the population growth isnt good enough to maintain socialism

"Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke."

@Lucienne d'Anwyl Is anything tax-funded that benefits the people necessarily socialist?

cause

i dont think it is

sometimes you need the government to do shit

I mean if you can hold them to account then you should

on a federal level

if you cant

There was this essay written recently, forgot the title, which essentially suggested that the people in favour of socialism will always be a coalition of those who currently do not possess that which a group of people has

you know

definitely at least for social programs

because theyre ingerently wealth redistribution

and thus socialist

in principle

not all tax funded programs are wealth redistribution

but the ones that are are inherently socialist

Biological Leninism was the title of the essay

Healthcare isn’t really wealth redistribution unless they’re giving you money based on a disorder or some shit