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@BabaBooey citation needed
what would have happened if they didn't do that though mersenne
Germany collapsed like what? 4 times in 100 years?
why cant I post on the facebook after I sabotaged the mind control tower
Baba: No lol, I wouldnt be a serf. I'd be a card carrying member of the revolution.
2 years into UCSA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYtvpgsit30&list=WL&index=33&t=0s
the government must be after me
is it possible that the consequences could have been greater if they did not enforce any grain procurement policies?
@BabaBooey Yeah, the Law of Spikelet's disagrees.
they had to get food from the places that produced it to the places that didn't somehow
@Death in June you are as bad as baba.
@Son of Rome Germans are the least accomplished nationality in europe
No, because at that point the damage had already been done. Historically, that piece of USSR legislation was based on the premise that anyone sifting for spare grain that wasn't harvested was attempting to subvert the Soviet Union's sense of nationality.
Ignore your country burning to the ground bro, germans are soooooooooo cucked!
The idea that searching for spare grain would have damaged the USSR's recovery efforts directly implies that the govt was planning on harvesting those spare pieces of grain. It was left to rot.
I dont think he's gonna respond @Mersenne
@Death in June
```Information about the Famine was a state secret in the USSR until the end of 1987.```
And why exactly is THIS? If the Russian government hadn't done any wrong, why did it take them until 1987 to reveal it?
http://www.ukrweekly.com/old/archive/2002/280205.shtml
Baba's not going to respond, because he can only shill for the USSR with shit-tier memes.
A spacial map of the ukranian famine of 1932-33 by harvard. There's a lot of information and generally it helps debunk a lot of myths about the holodomor. the map shows, among other things, that there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine (some of the hardest hit areas had the largest Russian minority), raw procurement per capita was lower in areas with famine (although plan fulfillment was higher because the plan targets were lowered), and more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates
http://gis.huri.harvard.edu/historical-atlas/the-great-famine/famine-web-map.html
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@BabaBooey Who was it created by?
> more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates
@Mersenne i don't think that was the intention of the law
@Telly_G 『⚡130』PC | Delete this.
A document ordering to increase food production in an area that voluntarily promised extra but did not even reach the original quota.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412023650913484810/unknown.png
A document showing the quota was lowered when it could not be reached on the condition that the new lower quota was mandatory
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412023869289791489/unknown.png
A document showing that the information the CC had was not lining up with the claims being made that were reasons to reduce quotas
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412024258538110977/unknown.png
A document from a regional committee showing that grain was stored in unfavourable conditions
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412024582166282251/unknown.png
full sized document
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411984716430835715/411988635941076993/unknown.png
A document showing there was insufficient grain production, and the CC sent representatives to check the situation as a result. Also shows that requests to lower quotas were denied (probably due to already low output of grain)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412024770167832577/unknown.png
A document showing regions had failed to implement decisions of the CC, and that there was a question of replacing leadership in these areas in order to increase grain production
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025046119219201/unknown.png
full sized document
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/411984716430835715/411990034275893262/unknown.png
A document showing the CC lightened up quotas again but wanted to recieving 100% of the set amount, or they would need to take harsh action
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398889591043653632/412025163778097153/unknown.png
"Effectively a law of specks, where even 3 specks of food in a starving person's pocket during the Soviet famine of 1932-1933 qualified them as a thief of state-owned food in the government's view"
yeah the article even says that the intention of the law was to prosecute thieves
Jesus
@BabaBooey How do we know those are the exact translations?
Relax
ask and you shall receive
I didnt ask for shit negroid
citations given
@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck probably because they didn't want it to stain their reputation
@Son of Rome stfu mutt
@BabaBooey Baba, you literally live on the brownest coast of the US, stfu
(and that's brown on multiple levels)
when you define 'theif' as 'peasant starving after you stole their grain'