haha super funny(cringe)

Your appreciation for what is funny is not to be taken into consideration my friend

The German socialism isn't the same socialism, not by a long shot. It is not social ownership of anything. The government dictates the welfare program, not the people, the people merely fund it but dont own it.

@NinjaQuick would you not agree that setting the standards around lowest common denominator will mean stagnation and an active hindering of capable, competent, smart and the enterprising?

The "socialism" that works is not blood-related to the "socialism" leftists claim to desire.

I think your assuming under authoritarian socialism they would have ownership anyways.

@2K i dont have a patreon

You can be a right winger like Bismark and want his brand of social policy.

I believe there are two very distinct socialism, and that's just a result of both schools being non-English contemporaries

So the terms are nested under the same spelling.

Common denominators must be - competence and accountability
Not an appearance of competence, not nepotism, not elitism, not proletarism, not fanatism around some worthless cult.

But are two completely different concepts.

@Camera Obscura twas a joke my friend

Bismarck's economic policies were über good

The case by modern socialists is saying they will have ownership but I’m skeptical they actually will follow through with it

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As most people are

they never did

I'm remembering Bismark. That guy nailed social programs and made Germany the economic powerhouse it still is.

@Camera Obscuraliar

most socialists turn out to be the plain old scam artists... pardon, "career politicians"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpETZt4teBY

A great example of German socialism VS our global understanding is the German gymnasium VS what we calm a gymnasium.

I would not call Bismark socialist

Isn’t Bernie often conflating his form of socialism to Denmark when they say they aren’t socialist?

You wouldn't but he was for social programs.

He didn't care to take private property away at all

That's the thing.

Woops

He, in German policy history, is a socialist.

thats shadows

But not a Marxist socialist.

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If you call it that

He was the socialist Bernie tries to act like he is.

He was social welfare policy, not social ownership policy.

The rest of the world calls this "capitalist social programs" tho