Message from @Uksio
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The rest of the world calls this "capitalist social programs" tho
Well seems most people know socialism under the Marxian type
@Camera Obscura i know where you live, be careful bro
Since generally that seems to be peddled
Bernie wants workers to own the means. Bismark wanted the state to provide a better life for the people.
@2K you are a liar you didnt sunscribe like you promised
Or at the very least not made clear the Distinction
marxist socialism is a suicide for a nation
every. damn. time.
Stop trying it. STOBBIT!
Bismark introduced better Healthcare, the world's best education system, colleges of science that were extremely well funded.
Ya and how do you prevent the government from not doing just that? What if they deem the people not capable?
Forever revolution?
Yeah, he took that prussian model and made it better
I can respect that
Bismarck's "socialism" is why most of the greatest scientists in the first half of the 20th century were educated in Germany.
Cause it wasn't social economic policy.
It was social welfare policy.
Denmark has those now
Yeah
Exactly.
It's not social economic policu
It's social welfare.
Welfare done right tho
Minorities: fuck white people
Also minorities: *has sex with white people*
Yes but it is still social welfare.
Social ownership of the means is Marxism.
There are more ways to fuck it up and end up with a mess of leeches instead
HARZ4 AMG types are quick to sniff out free moni
He’s clearly trying to pander to the socialist Marxist in the crowd tho. since he knows the distinction isn’t obvious to everyone.
Like Bernie is a Marxist.
I'm a huge Bismark fan.
Everyone that looks at Europe and thinks it's Marxist socialism that makes it possible is retarded.
social ownership of stuff is already a thing that exists: we call those "corporations" and "countries/states"
bismarck was <:ahegon:566797166258028548>
Cause you can't have Marxist socialism and an enduring welfare state.
No social ownership as in the workers own the company, not the founders.
With mass migration and no unifying principle to hold the entire thing together