but i can help lay the foundations

so bababoeey's solution to society is to shoot everyone who refuses to hand over control of everything to him and his cronies

@BabaBooey No, socialism is the effort of trying to achieve communism. But it has never happened.

Will any communist advocate for prison camps for insurgents?

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I mean the issue is baba is arguing for regular USSR style communism. Just that it’s temporary, which he’s correct, it eventually falls apart lol...

But no the idea of a utopian vision just doesn’t work

The classless society has never been made a reality. Yet delusional little commie Baba thinks that "THIS TIME, it will work!" 😄

Well ya they think it’s just a “transition period”

Get's taken over by power hungry tyrants ok

@snake yes because capitalism encirclement sabotage and bombardment had 0 to do with it my guy

And having firms competing to make stuff is more efficient than the state pointing guns at people to make stuff

When in reality the transition never fucking ends lol

@BabaBooey How could capitalism "sabotage" communism, if communism is so superior?

@ubermensch it doesn't happen overnight

@Seven Proxies what are you on about?

@BabaBooey sure, but your system should always expect opponents to be against it. Your system needs to subvert and reverse it

If crony capitalism is big business // nepotism // the state

What would crony communism be like?

how about this?

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COmMuNiSm

THat's all communism, Danny

@Naantje All communism is crony communism.

By definition

The issue with Nazi Germany and USSR Russia is that they weren’t anti fragile like capitalism was.

COOMunism 😉

@snake of course, the ussr made mistakes by expecting the imperialist yanks to leave them be

And I’m not saying this because I’m happy capitalism won

One of the many problems with communism is that there will always be the bogeyman "capitalism" to distract the useful idiots from the incompetence of the leadership

Communism -is- the people in power oppressing everyone else

Baba the Coomunist

By definition

If they expected the US to leave them alone

@snake Their both extreme leftism, thats gay enough.

Why spend over 50% GDP on military

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@BabaBooey the USSR did take it into account but failed. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a massive arms race

@BabaBooey so your essentially saying be content in an authoritarian dictatorship because at some point way down the road we will be in a classless stateless society ?

Would crony communism be when the state hoards all food, like Marie Antoinette did during the french revolution as her people starved?

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once the american empire is vanquished into the trash heap of history then the world will be at peace

Joseph Stalin was brilliant in Geopolitical matters