there will come a point where new apostates will still be sort of hated because it took them so long to defect, like women that slept with nazis

@Tato you talking about that german who doesn't like Germany

Yes that guy

aka every german now adays

for me it really comes down to whether or not she is likely to actually correctly identify the source of these things, and personally i dont think so. frankly centrism these days is still liberalism

because theyve shifted the whole window leftward over the past few decades

Also he doesnt not like germany he doesnt like nazi germany and capitalist wet dreams

i dont hate germany...i wish it wasnt on fire and that theyd grow a fucking spine but i dont hate them

And points out its not black and white

three arrows just seems like another pseudo intellectual to me

also, she also says she is a conservative but i don't think she ever really talks about having traditional values, which is why i have such a problem with the modern conservative label @UnScottable people use it just as a label to "own the libs"

exactly

Well hes usually on point

and what would you describe as "capitalist wet dreams"

like put some extra thought into it... and maybe she will. but put some serious thought into like... the foundation that produced the unbelievably wealthy civilization that we have inherited @Cryrosphere

"Free market will regulate everything" is the wet dream of a capitalist

it has a lot to do with genetics, the evolution of morality among genetic groups. and etc. many things.

just saying... oh well... the left is weird and im not on board. i say... well thats a start so... 🤷‍♂️ better then nothing

fair but people need to point out what the word "conservative" means before it becomes like the word liberal

free mark! et phone home!

Ok liberal @Cryrosphere

lol

three arrows is a faggot but he's at least good at explaining his faggotry in detail, so for that i watch him

in popular discourse conservatism is just the right wing of liberalism

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@Tato what is the problem

what are you black man question marking at

repeal the 19th amendment, and the civil rights act. the white majority asserts its dominance. the dust settles. and then we can begin to try to start doing things properly again

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oof

@UnScottable Do the irish count

yes

they've always counted

ya sure about that

celts are badass

yep

pretty sure

irishmen were senators back in the mid 19th century

when you had to be white to become a citizen

so at least since around 1850 at minimum it does seem the irish counted

they certainly count a hell of a lot more then a mexicano

eh i've met some good latinos who are hardworking