Message from @KizzaGT

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2020-02-29 05:10:32 UTC  

why would that violate people's rights

2020-02-29 05:10:40 UTC  

what do taxes have to do with rights?

2020-02-29 05:10:50 UTC  

Alright, I'll concede your point - property ownership is a right.

2020-02-29 05:10:56 UTC  

taxes are overhead nessecary to facilitate gov

2020-02-29 05:11:11 UTC  

Because you're ignoring the fundamental part of choice.

2020-02-29 05:11:38 UTC  

property ownership rights are like any other rights; stem from the conditional agreement between the government and it's people

2020-02-29 05:11:40 UTC  

i mean there can be choice involved

2020-02-29 05:11:47 UTC  

people could vote on it

2020-02-29 05:11:52 UTC  

rights MUST be secured

2020-02-29 05:11:54 UTC  

Except not really.

2020-02-29 05:11:55 UTC  

even directly

2020-02-29 05:11:55 UTC  

they aren't free

2020-02-29 05:11:59 UTC  

why not really

2020-02-29 05:12:19 UTC  

constant vigilance is a cost

2020-02-29 05:12:28 UTC  

don't pay the cost? not more rights

2020-02-29 05:12:49 UTC  

A good example. Where your tax money goes. What if you don't want your taxes going to pointless foreign wars.

2020-02-29 05:13:16 UTC  

I mean, you're paying the money. Shouldn't you decide where it goes and how much??

2020-02-29 05:13:26 UTC  

well if you vote you can exercise choice in that way

2020-02-29 05:13:33 UTC  

i mean of course you could say voting doesn't really matter

2020-02-29 05:13:33 UTC  

that's not a valid argument though

2020-02-29 05:13:43 UTC  

Except you only vote in an election.

2020-02-29 05:13:44 UTC  

you are confusing implementation with theory

2020-02-29 05:13:49 UTC  

why should you decide where that money goes

2020-02-29 05:13:58 UTC  

Because I paid for it.

2020-02-29 05:14:01 UTC  

That's why.

2020-02-29 05:14:01 UTC  

so

2020-02-29 05:14:07 UTC  

not nessecarily

2020-02-29 05:14:13 UTC  

why does that mean you should decide where it goes

2020-02-29 05:14:16 UTC  

because taxes aren't compartmentalized

2020-02-29 05:14:25 UTC  

which they are SUPPOSED to be

2020-02-29 05:14:40 UTC  

why should it be yours to unilaterally decided what happens with it

2020-02-29 05:14:44 UTC  

instead, we spend money promised boomers to fight forgein wars

2020-02-29 05:14:44 UTC  

what is the deeper reason

2020-02-29 05:15:02 UTC  

borrowing against funds already allocated to other areas

2020-02-29 05:15:07 UTC  

It's my money and if I'm going to pay for something I decide what that is.

2020-02-29 05:15:13 UTC  

this should be verboten

2020-02-29 05:15:16 UTC  

why is it yours

2020-02-29 05:15:23 UTC  

it's not 'your money'

2020-02-29 05:15:38 UTC  

Because I created/earned it.

2020-02-29 05:15:55 UTC  

you work in this country, under the protections of this gov at a COST

2020-02-29 05:16:01 UTC  

and why do the actions you are calling creating or earning it entitle you to it