Message from @ManAnimal

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2020-02-29 05:12:49 UTC  

A good example. Where your tax money goes. What if you don't want your taxes going to pointless foreign wars.

2020-02-29 05:13:16 UTC  

I mean, you're paying the money. Shouldn't you decide where it goes and how much??

2020-02-29 05:13:26 UTC  

well if you vote you can exercise choice in that way

2020-02-29 05:13:33 UTC  

i mean of course you could say voting doesn't really matter

2020-02-29 05:13:33 UTC  

that's not a valid argument though

2020-02-29 05:13:43 UTC  

Except you only vote in an election.

2020-02-29 05:13:44 UTC  

you are confusing implementation with theory

2020-02-29 05:13:49 UTC  

why should you decide where that money goes

2020-02-29 05:13:58 UTC  

Because I paid for it.

2020-02-29 05:14:01 UTC  

That's why.

2020-02-29 05:14:01 UTC  

so

2020-02-29 05:14:07 UTC  

not nessecarily

2020-02-29 05:14:13 UTC  

why does that mean you should decide where it goes

2020-02-29 05:14:16 UTC  

because taxes aren't compartmentalized

2020-02-29 05:14:25 UTC  

which they are SUPPOSED to be

2020-02-29 05:14:40 UTC  

why should it be yours to unilaterally decided what happens with it

2020-02-29 05:14:44 UTC  

instead, we spend money promised boomers to fight forgein wars

2020-02-29 05:14:44 UTC  

what is the deeper reason

2020-02-29 05:15:02 UTC  

borrowing against funds already allocated to other areas

2020-02-29 05:15:07 UTC  

It's my money and if I'm going to pay for something I decide what that is.

2020-02-29 05:15:13 UTC  

this should be verboten

2020-02-29 05:15:16 UTC  

why is it yours

2020-02-29 05:15:23 UTC  

it's not 'your money'

2020-02-29 05:15:38 UTC  

Because I created/earned it.

2020-02-29 05:15:55 UTC  

you work in this country, under the protections of this gov at a COST

2020-02-29 05:16:01 UTC  

and why do the actions you are calling creating or earning it entitle you to it

2020-02-29 05:16:26 UTC  

Because I did something to get it via a service.

2020-02-29 05:16:36 UTC  

woah, stop confusing terminology

2020-02-29 05:16:46 UTC  

workers don't create money

2020-02-29 05:16:53 UTC  

that goes against capitalism

2020-02-29 05:16:56 UTC  

They create value

2020-02-29 05:17:00 UTC  

correct

2020-02-29 05:17:06 UTC  

money is a storage of value

2020-02-29 05:17:09 UTC  

would you say that getting to own that by virtue of having performed that service is a right

2020-02-29 05:17:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678530619621507073/683181000159002629/e7f.png

2020-02-29 05:17:26 UTC  

IT's a mutual agreement, not a right.

2020-02-29 05:17:41 UTC  

IF you have the right to perform a service THEN you have a right to the output

2020-02-29 05:17:47 UTC  

can't have just one

2020-02-29 05:18:02 UTC  

they go together

2020-02-29 05:18:02 UTC  

but why do people exercise control over the things the agreement is made upon

2020-02-29 05:18:07 UTC  

else it's called 'slavery'