Message from @jesmaz
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Hey, gotta make the distinction.
Ik :3
Then you should be against the idea of the government having a near absolute monopoly on everything from property, food etc.
This is the ultimate form of tyranny.
maybe; at it's foundation, their is a degree of mental gymnastics atheists perform calling rights 'natural' yet not acknowledging that requires a believe in god
so you think it's bad because you oppose monopolies
is that what you're getting at
Anyone with common sense is against a purely authoritarian government claiming ownership over all property.
i don't give a fuck if you oppose it i just want the reason
all government is authoritarian per conditions
It's simple logic that one who owns it all will only lead to tyranny.
that's no logic
it's emotional rhetoric
what if the government just mandated very extreme redistribution of private property
ownership breeds stewardship
no one will respect it.
say there's a 100% estate tax, 100% income tax at like 100,000$ a year and above, and so on
Then you would have created the illusion of equity and the system would inevitably collapse over time.
do you think that would violate people's rights?
No shit.
why would that violate people's rights
what do taxes have to do with rights?
Alright, I'll concede your point - property ownership is a right.
taxes are overhead nessecary to facilitate gov
Because you're ignoring the fundamental part of choice.
property ownership rights are like any other rights; stem from the conditional agreement between the government and it's people
i mean there can be choice involved
people could vote on it
rights MUST be secured
Except not really.
even directly
they aren't free
why not really
constant vigilance is a cost
don't pay the cost? not more rights
A good example. Where your tax money goes. What if you don't want your taxes going to pointless foreign wars.
I mean, you're paying the money. Shouldn't you decide where it goes and how much??
well if you vote you can exercise choice in that way
i mean of course you could say voting doesn't really matter
that's not a valid argument though