Message from @Death in June

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2020-02-29 05:06:09 UTC  

Then you own nothing and are merely a slave to the government.

2020-02-29 05:06:19 UTC  

yeah and do you think that's wrong kizza

2020-02-29 05:06:24 UTC  

@ManAnimal in ur butt <:ahegon:566797166258028548>

2020-02-29 05:06:29 UTC  

do you have a right to purchase?

2020-02-29 05:06:34 UTC  

Let me put it this way.

2020-02-29 05:06:39 UTC  

you don't have the right to own property

2020-02-29 05:06:43 UTC  

Do you like monopolies??

2020-02-29 05:06:44 UTC  

in this scenario

2020-02-29 05:06:45 UTC  

UCC wouldn't seem to agree

2020-02-29 05:06:57 UTC  

Owning property falls more into a freedom afforded by a government.

2020-02-29 05:07:02 UTC  

not particularly kizza

2020-02-29 05:07:04 UTC  

It's neither a right nor a service.

2020-02-29 05:07:11 UTC  

This chat:

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2020-02-29 05:07:14 UTC  

"freedom afforded by.. " cringe

2020-02-29 05:07:24 UTC  

Hey, gotta make the distinction.

2020-02-29 05:07:35 UTC  

Ik :3

2020-02-29 05:08:06 UTC  

Then you should be against the idea of the government having a near absolute monopoly on everything from property, food etc.

2020-02-29 05:08:22 UTC  

This is the ultimate form of tyranny.

2020-02-29 05:08:24 UTC  

maybe; at it's foundation, their is a degree of mental gymnastics atheists perform calling rights 'natural' yet not acknowledging that requires a believe in god

2020-02-29 05:08:27 UTC  

so you think it's bad because you oppose monopolies

2020-02-29 05:08:36 UTC  

is that what you're getting at

2020-02-29 05:08:37 UTC  

Anyone with common sense is against a purely authoritarian government claiming ownership over all property.

2020-02-29 05:08:59 UTC  

i don't give a fuck if you oppose it i just want the reason

2020-02-29 05:09:02 UTC  

all government is authoritarian per conditions

2020-02-29 05:09:08 UTC  

It's simple logic that one who owns it all will only lead to tyranny.

2020-02-29 05:09:22 UTC  

that's no logic

2020-02-29 05:09:30 UTC  

it's emotional rhetoric

2020-02-29 05:09:42 UTC  

what if the government just mandated very extreme redistribution of private property

2020-02-29 05:09:58 UTC  

ownership breeds stewardship

2020-02-29 05:09:59 UTC  

no one will respect it.

2020-02-29 05:10:08 UTC  

say there's a 100% estate tax, 100% income tax at like 100,000$ a year and above, and so on

2020-02-29 05:10:12 UTC  

Then you would have created the illusion of equity and the system would inevitably collapse over time.

2020-02-29 05:10:15 UTC  

do you think that would violate people's rights?

2020-02-29 05:10:26 UTC  

No shit.

2020-02-29 05:10:30 UTC  

Nobody would want to work

2020-02-29 05:10:32 UTC  

why would that violate people's rights

2020-02-29 05:10:40 UTC  

what do taxes have to do with rights?

2020-02-29 05:10:50 UTC  

Alright, I'll concede your point - property ownership is a right.

2020-02-29 05:10:56 UTC  

taxes are overhead nessecary to facilitate gov

2020-02-29 05:11:11 UTC  

Because you're ignoring the fundamental part of choice.

2020-02-29 05:11:38 UTC  

property ownership rights are like any other rights; stem from the conditional agreement between the government and it's people