Message from @ManAnimal

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2020-03-01 04:39:14 UTC  

It describes the intended purpose

2020-03-01 04:39:15 UTC  

We still need some basic safety nets

2020-03-01 04:39:20 UTC  

it's acting like you can provide a consistent minimum

2020-03-01 04:39:23 UTC  

no you dont

2020-03-01 04:39:31 UTC  

historically that has not been the case

2020-03-01 04:39:32 UTC  

If it works or not is beyond the point

2020-03-01 04:39:37 UTC  

@ManAnimal What are you then?

2020-03-01 04:39:38 UTC  

as i described eariler, it makes sense people be forced to have part of their income set aside for emergency usage

2020-03-01 04:39:48 UTC  

as long as that money can ONLY be used by them

2020-03-01 04:39:56 UTC  

and upon retirement they get it back

2020-03-01 04:40:00 UTC  

there is no issue

2020-03-01 04:40:04 UTC  

@Coolitic historically we discarded the disabled as refuse unless they had some sort of worth or history

2020-03-01 04:40:08 UTC  

untrue

2020-03-01 04:40:12 UTC  

it provides a buffer

2020-03-01 04:40:12 UTC  

they were well taken care of

2020-03-01 04:40:15 UTC  

Historically we had nuclear families

2020-03-01 04:40:16 UTC  

until a single act was released

2020-03-01 04:40:28 UTC  

which kicked em all out

2020-03-01 04:40:33 UTC  

that had nothing to do with "safety nets"

2020-03-01 04:40:41 UTC  

but you left when i made the associated argument regarding your inexperience with capitalism coolitc

2020-03-01 04:40:49 UTC  

we used to have this thing called 'savings'

2020-03-01 04:40:53 UTC  

I know

2020-03-01 04:41:03 UTC  

that maintained both liquidity and earned interest

2020-03-01 04:41:10 UTC  

this was our 'saftey net' too

2020-03-01 04:41:25 UTC  

now, you've gotten rid of that

2020-03-01 04:41:37 UTC  

so inevitably, where does that weight go?

2020-03-01 04:41:38 UTC  

welfare

2020-03-01 04:41:47 UTC  

the remainder of that net

2020-03-01 04:41:56 UTC  

and the left didn't cause the 2008 debacle

2020-03-01 04:41:58 UTC  

the right did

2020-03-01 04:42:13 UTC  

the "left" barely existed in 2008, congressionally-speaking

2020-03-01 04:42:22 UTC  

This is true you wouldn't need a safety net if you actually had savings, part of that is because some of the money I might save is being taxed into a black hole

2020-03-01 04:42:24 UTC  

it was only right afterwards that the Dems started veering off hard left

2020-03-01 04:42:24 UTC  

in your eyes maybe

2020-03-01 04:42:35 UTC  

because in my world, you are a bit liberal

2020-03-01 04:42:40 UTC  

😉

2020-03-01 04:43:01 UTC  

...because I want to ban taxation?

2020-03-01 04:43:12 UTC  

no, that's not liberal

2020-03-01 04:43:13 UTC  

because I support traditional nuclear families?

2020-03-01 04:43:18 UTC  

nope

2020-03-01 04:43:24 UTC  

ok, but that kind of liberal isn't left-wing