Message from @ThatPreciseBloke
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yet id bet they wouldnt bother with background checking politicians for ties to the same forces they pretend to "rally the people" against, its pathetic watching the charade and responsibility shifting really
Again you dodge to another party
really? because I thought we were talking about the need for background checks...
This has nothing to do with politicians
I’m talking about legislation regarding gun control
and thats fine but at the end of the day its just paper with fancy writing on it made by elitists that probably care about their paychecks and power more than they do children's well being unequivocally
legitimized by threat of force upon non complicance like the protection racket it really truly is
What does that have to do with what I’m talking about
What warped sense of linear logic do you think your pulling off
my point is I dont see it wise to put my well being and the well being of people I love into the hands of laws that can be changed and amended to suit the aims of those that would see them dead... and you shouldn't either
besides the fact that values etc do way more to influence people and things more than one would imagine... scared me at first but im not even surprised at all anymore
So you believe that words do more than words
since when are intentionalistically held values merely words?
When you tell somebody your values are they not words
And also what are laws except written values
in the functional sense yes, but insofar as them being quantum probabilities (which exist as energy waveforms, as they have been proven to be by empirical science) id think not...
From what I can see I doubt you understand the idea of wave functions (also because in this context it doesn’t make any sense here since this about ethics and not physics ) but I’ll bite
you dont have to, I guess its just my opinion but if the quantum world precipitated the physical world and not the other way around it would make sense of a lot more than people are willing to to say the least
why do your arguments always turn into this retarded bullshit
You do realize that the “quantum world” is within the physical world
highly unlikely that this experiment concludes an imminent universal origin but as good of a presupposition as yours
Also I do agree that this metaphysics shit is pretty.... well shit
@ThatPreciseBloke the “quantum world” is literally the smallest **physical** thing
yes where "reality" as we understand it practically ceases to exist; "why" is the question
It doesn’t cease to exist
never said it did, but the interference pattern made by electrons as the default actions on part of those actions suggests that matter acts as a wave (energy) as supposed to particulates (matter)
If you define reality as Newtonian physics then I have some pretty bad news for ya
not purely but go on...
If you’re not defining it like that then why say “where ‘reality’ as we understand it practically ceases to exist;”
because by any sort of empirical observation "reality" is (at first glance) an unmoving continuum as defined by natural and/plus universal law, which includes ones that define physical processes...
It’s almost like observing the world at a macro level doesn’t give you an in-depth view of how things really work
Next you’re gonna say reality breaks down at the cellular level because of the Krebs Cycle
nice presupposition but id think im at least smart enough to not know cells are x^100 number of times bigger than anything quantum or even atomic (and thus from a material POV, already were "probabilized" into existance, at the quantum level) but k den
Combine that witht the fact that the universe ostensibly originated from a very very small point and you have no less than a definitive, scientifically backed idealism
This
This is amazing
im sure it is 🙃
*HuRr DuRr GeNe EdItInG aNd GmO iS nEaRlY FoOlPrOoF AnD nOt dAnGeRoUs*
I don’t think anyone says that
Youd be surprised lol