Message from @darops of cheese

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2020-02-27 04:35:55 UTC  

Like 90% of it is that

2020-02-27 04:36:46 UTC  

yet id bet they wouldnt bother with background checking politicians for ties to the same forces they pretend to "rally the people" against, its pathetic watching the charade and responsibility shifting really

2020-02-27 04:37:12 UTC  

Again you dodge to another party

2020-02-27 04:37:31 UTC  

really? because I thought we were talking about the need for background checks...

2020-02-27 04:37:42 UTC  

This has nothing to do with politicians

2020-02-27 04:38:08 UTC  

I’m talking about legislation regarding gun control

2020-02-27 04:39:38 UTC  

and thats fine but at the end of the day its just paper with fancy writing on it made by elitists that probably care about their paychecks and power more than they do children's well being unequivocally

2020-02-27 04:40:03 UTC  

legitimized by threat of force upon non complicance like the protection racket it really truly is

2020-02-27 04:40:08 UTC  

What does that have to do with what I’m talking about

2020-02-27 04:40:57 UTC  

What warped sense of linear logic do you think your pulling off

2020-02-27 04:41:16 UTC  

my point is I dont see it wise to put my well being and the well being of people I love into the hands of laws that can be changed and amended to suit the aims of those that would see them dead... and you shouldn't either

2020-02-27 04:42:11 UTC  

besides the fact that values etc do way more to influence people and things more than one would imagine... scared me at first but im not even surprised at all anymore

2020-02-27 04:43:21 UTC  

So you believe that words do more than words

2020-02-27 04:43:47 UTC  

since when are intentionalistically held values merely words?

2020-02-27 04:44:38 UTC  

When you tell somebody your values are they not words

2020-02-27 04:45:02 UTC  

And also what are laws except written values

2020-02-27 04:45:11 UTC  

in the functional sense yes, but insofar as them being quantum probabilities (which exist as energy waveforms, as they have been proven to be by empirical science) id think not...

2020-02-27 04:49:25 UTC  

From what I can see I doubt you understand the idea of wave functions (also because in this context it doesn’t make any sense here since this about ethics and not physics ) but I’ll bite

2020-02-27 04:51:18 UTC  

you dont have to, I guess its just my opinion but if the quantum world precipitated the physical world and not the other way around it would make sense of a lot more than people are willing to to say the least

2020-02-27 04:52:26 UTC  

why do your arguments always turn into this retarded bullshit

2020-02-27 04:52:44 UTC  

You do realize that the “quantum world” is within the physical world

2020-02-27 04:53:35 UTC  

highly unlikely that this experiment concludes an imminent universal origin but as good of a presupposition as yours

2020-02-27 04:53:38 UTC  

Also I do agree that this metaphysics shit is pretty.... well shit

2020-02-27 04:54:43 UTC  

@ThatPreciseBloke the “quantum world” is literally the smallest **physical** thing

2020-02-27 04:55:34 UTC  

yes where "reality" as we understand it practically ceases to exist; "why" is the question

2020-02-27 04:55:47 UTC  

It doesn’t cease to exist

2020-02-27 04:56:52 UTC  

never said it did, but the interference pattern made by electrons as the default actions on part of those actions suggests that matter acts as a wave (energy) as supposed to particulates (matter)

2020-02-27 04:57:15 UTC  

If you define reality as Newtonian physics then I have some pretty bad news for ya

2020-02-27 04:58:25 UTC  

not purely but go on...

2020-02-27 04:59:57 UTC  

If you’re not defining it like that then why say “where ‘reality’ as we understand it practically ceases to exist;”

2020-02-27 05:00:54 UTC  

because by any sort of empirical observation "reality" is (at first glance) an unmoving continuum as defined by natural and/plus universal law, which includes ones that define physical processes...

2020-02-27 05:02:13 UTC  

It’s almost like observing the world at a macro level doesn’t give you an in-depth view of how things really work

2020-02-27 05:02:54 UTC  

Next you’re gonna say reality breaks down at the cellular level because of the Krebs Cycle

2020-02-27 05:03:45 UTC  

nice presupposition but id think im at least smart enough to not know cells are x^100 number of times bigger than anything quantum or even atomic (and thus from a material POV, already were "probabilized" into existance, at the quantum level) but k den

Combine that witht the fact that the universe ostensibly originated from a very very small point and you have no less than a definitive, scientifically backed idealism

2020-02-27 05:04:06 UTC  

This

2020-02-27 05:04:10 UTC  

This is amazing

2020-02-27 05:05:05 UTC  

im sure it is 🙃

2020-02-27 22:10:58 UTC  

*HuRr DuRr GeNe EdItInG aNd GmO iS nEaRlY FoOlPrOoF AnD nOt dAnGeRoUs*

2020-02-27 22:11:24 UTC  

I don’t think anyone says that