Message from @AvtomaticKalashnikov

Discord ID: 602364863855198220


2019-07-21 03:12:55 UTC  

Probably leaning anti-realist. I tend to be morally nihilistic.

2019-07-21 03:13:40 UTC  

Ah good

2019-07-21 03:14:12 UTC  

I would say that morality is something which arises from society based in the material conditions by which it finds itself

2019-07-21 03:14:40 UTC  

Which is still ultimately anti-realism since it has no objectified form in existence

2019-07-21 03:14:59 UTC  

Moral Realism only makes sense if you believe in God which like, ew, no

2019-07-21 03:15:11 UTC  

ok MARXOID

2019-07-21 03:15:41 UTC  

I believe (and I'm only saying this because of Wikipedia) Marx was a moral realist.

2019-07-21 03:16:03 UTC  

No, wait, someone argued that Marx was a moral realist.

2019-07-21 03:16:17 UTC  

Who ever did that is a fucking dipshit

2019-07-21 03:16:44 UTC  

@Several People OK BUHKARINITE

2019-07-21 03:16:53 UTC  
2019-07-21 03:17:20 UTC  

He's a Jew, by the way. Criticize carefully.

2019-07-21 03:18:32 UTC  

```...and criticized Louis Althusser...``` FREINDSHIP ENDED WITH GERAS

2019-07-21 03:18:51 UTC  

`He's a Jew, by the way. Criticize carefully.
` cringeeeeeeeeee

2019-07-21 03:19:14 UTC  

im not sure how anyone could say that marx was a moral realist having read Capital

2019-07-21 03:20:30 UTC  

Also I would have to read the work to critique it, but if it does indeed state Marx was a moral realist, when he's an idiot Marx himself stated the Proletariat should abandon Bourgeois morality and my take about morality arising from society is something that is in agreement with Marx's Dialectical Materialism

2019-07-21 03:20:45 UTC  

Or really any Materialism

2019-07-21 04:52:20 UTC  

My dad hates the Jews

2019-07-21 04:52:34 UTC  

He’s genuinely ok with Nazis

2019-07-21 04:52:40 UTC  

What a lad

2019-07-21 05:02:54 UTC  

<:Ancap_Smiley:538150164800733204>

2019-07-21 05:24:22 UTC  

Is there any reason a liberterian forum has so many commies?

2019-07-21 05:28:00 UTC  

Because libertarians dont ban them

2019-07-21 05:28:34 UTC  

This discord is shit, there shouldn't be fucking commies here

2019-07-21 05:28:45 UTC  

Get them the fuck out

2019-07-21 05:34:37 UTC  

@stinky you're forgetting that Communists/anarchists hate the government

2019-07-21 05:36:39 UTC  

@stinky not only that but theres like 400 people
Out of that there's only like
2 people who are still right-wing but just moderately okay with leftist ideas

And 3 actual commies

So there's actually not that many for you to complain about

2019-07-21 10:01:13 UTC  

<@&498708758151561226> give me enlisted role I have renounced communism based on my last poll

2019-07-21 10:08:18 UTC  

What caused you to renounce communism?

2019-07-21 10:16:07 UTC  

its foolish

2019-07-21 10:20:25 UTC  

one phrase:
"everyone will work to the speed of the slowest man"

If there is no room to better yourself, given enough time everyone will always work to the lowest speed to maintain their lifestyle. "For the greater good" might work to loosely guide people but it doesn't mean shit for day to day life.

2019-07-21 10:21:01 UTC  

What of a world in which industry was automated? if this is an argument from potential downplay of productivity

2019-07-21 10:21:44 UTC  

How does communism necessarily imply 'there is no room to better yourself'?

2019-07-21 10:23:13 UTC  

communism is inherently equality of outcome not opportunity. AKA no room to better yourself.

2019-07-21 10:23:36 UTC  

That isn't necessarily true

2019-07-21 10:24:52 UTC  

personally I only see communism as a viable end-goal, post scarcity when automation takes hold

2019-07-21 10:25:29 UTC  

or perhaps even without the guise of automation if incentivisation methods are used

2019-07-21 10:25:49 UTC  

but that devolves into what is essentially a currency in some form

2019-07-21 10:25:53 UTC  

so it wouldn't be communism, more like collectivist anarchism

2019-07-21 10:28:12 UTC  

fully automated communism isnt communism. You would name it something else, communism is outlined primarily by making people do their fair share and receive it too. Its not fixing it its just changing the subject. Running the whole country isnt a political ideology its like saying "no need to fix roads if we just make them all out of diamond" there is an end goal but with no path its useless. If we could automate everything in life we would.
How about i start the party of the dyson sphere, we are going to do that.

2019-07-21 10:29:46 UTC  

Communism is outlined by making people do as much as they want and taking what they want