Message from @Larbi
Discord ID: 616598747190657025
That's all Hitler wanted.
It's not all you want.
```"A member of the human race who is completely incapable of understanding the higher productivity of labor performed under a division of labor based on private property is not properly speaking a person… but falls instead into the same moral category as an animal – of either the harmless sort (to be domesticated and employed as a producer or consumer good, or to be enjoyed as a “free good”) or the wild and dangerous one (to be fought as a pest). On the other hand, there are members of the human species who are capable of understanding the [value of the division of labor] but...who knowingly act wrongly… [B]esides having to be tamed or even physically defeated [they] must also be punished… to make them understand the nature of their wrongdoings and hopefully teach them a lesson for the future."
-Hans-Hermann Hoppe.```
Hippity hoppety, commies are property.
@Deleted User in theory I'm okay with communism but whenever I hear communists promote communism it's always in an involuntary context
Don't humour him there is a reason he's called 'halfthink'
Not really
I'm going to bed now I'll talk to you guys later
@Deleted User wdym by 'trad leftists'?
Kek
What about politics, views on government, etc.?
What makes you a 'leftist'?
How so?
Cooperative ownership, maybe public if it's voluntarily paid for
I reject idpol as well, still thinking about my morality wherever it's stirnerite/nihilist or NAP
I'm big boy against 'government' in the traditional sense and dislike taxation so I suppose I'm similar to these lot on that note
I'm not really traditionalist as well; critical about marriage and dislike gender stereotypes to some extent so I'm more left-wing in that regard however I dislike the toxic culture that has arisen out of the ashes of feminism.
I'd say I enjoy being masculine in the traditional sense however I wouldn't impose it as a standard, I'd rather see what kind of people crop up from the chaos. I dislike societal standards for it's collectivising nature.
I greatly dislike that
Humanism is a mainstream philosophy that places value and agency on human life.
It came out the secular movement
Value is something that isn't objectified
It's subjective
You aren't familiar with the individualist left and post-left then? The individualist left. They preach that you should not be controlled by any collective in such away that goes against your desires. There is no value in human life other than the value that individual actors subscribe to it, ideology has the effect of preaching certain values whilst pressuring us against other values. This constrains the liberty of the individual as it masks their freedom under the guise of 'goods', 'bads', 'rights' and 'wrongs' that are arbitrary. I take the stirnerite belief that I believe that you find value in people through total subguation of their unique selves, their uses, how they make you feel rather than arbitrary abstractions like 'humanity' and 'community'.
We care about people not because they are human, but because of how they impact and interact with us
Because of the consequences
Lol
It's not liberalism
but it may be called 'revisionism' by a marxist leninist
It's a tradition that is older than lenin, mao, etc.
(brb)
Lol
that's self-ish greed#
True greed is having the greed for other selves
Love is greedy
oooo
greed is good
Communism is true greed
nvm