Message from @Local
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@darops of cheese the original constitution states it's only for free white people
It also states that it can be amended
Right so the gun control argument from the constitution is accurate but not foundational
i wipe my ass with the constitution
it's useless and immoral
and is the tool of tyrants and autocrats
self defense is a moral right without a need for legal justification yes
as for the constitution being immoral, if its designed to be amended id say it would depend on which versions feature identity politics and which versions dont but yeah
@Local no one thinks the constitution will protect us from everything or work perfectly but it’s done a pretty alright job
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
-Lysander Spooner
your precious constitution is built on the fact that it allowed the enslavment of fellow humans, and when it's changed most of the time it's to restrict liberty
I don’t think the constitution restricts liberties so much as it basically just defines them
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if you think a piece of paper defines rights you're a knob
^
And yet I don’t see you in jail
So either you’re a hypocrite or a poser
because i know how to beat cops
they're just dumb
You see this is why we need a small govt that we can manage albeit one thats productive, otherwise we either get george orwells wet dream or pointless arguments as to whether a piece of paper defines us or not (and while in moral principle it shouldnt,practically speaking its significant in regards to basically everything libertarians would consider holy as it provides sound definitions of the rights freedoms and principles we currently advocate for) ...
The constitution irregardless of semantics was intended as a small govt arrangement, and while it defines legal matters on a collective basis, a good thing about it its not so overbearing of a basis that our sesame credit gets ruined everytime we jerk off, and not so underbearing of a basis that no one is held accountable irregardless of religious or political belief, which inevitably results in yugoslavisation and microcollectivisation of said group and then middle age feudalism 2.0 electric boogaloo happens...
Besides, the constitution not only was a far lesser evil than the alternative (rothschild fiat currency enforced debt slavery by order of the king of england unto the colonies) but (again, assuming theres nothing about it that puts anyone above another on the basis of identity)
If the constitutional definition of slavery is being able to defend your own property without necissitating outside help, freedom to practice religion, freedom of speech, freedom of association, and private property rights, then sign me the fuck up because society went wrong the moment we started pandering to anyone who would even fancy the concept of, and concepts that support big government + the unholy principalities, powers, forces and tyranny it enables in the long term...
You could’ve just said that I dislike being a slave to the constitution
Instead of this barely coherent mess
I was talking about how the constitution is necissarily significant in light of how much worse laws could be had, but ok
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
-Lysander Spooner
I was talking about its inportance from a legal standpoint... Besides the fact that anyone hellbent on taking over a country will find loopholes to exploit at some point anyhow, thats basically that
There are a nigh infinite amount of ways to take over a country
constitution or otherwise
“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
-Lysander Spooner
Loopholes are a feature not a bug
And yes i know laws are intrinsically (without martial and judicial backing) only hyper formalized recommendation letters on behalf of thine self appointed demigods known as politicians to begin with , seeing as said politicians seem to love breaking them also 😂
(both the leftists and rightists i should add)
