Message from @pd

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2018-07-29 21:50:51 UTC  

well maybe i am a fucking idiot or whatever because i've got plenty of faith in alec to turn himself around

2018-07-29 21:50:59 UTC  

Alcoholics anonymous and the twelve commandments

2018-07-29 21:51:09 UTC  

he made this cruise symbolic in meaning

2018-07-29 21:51:19 UTC  

addiction is entirely based on the feedback system imo

2018-07-29 21:51:22 UTC  

if his hearts really in it he could totally change

2018-07-29 21:51:47 UTC  

if you get a net positive out of the behavior, you'll keep doing it

2018-07-29 21:52:04 UTC  

i.e. if the consequences for drinking aren't severe enough, he won't stop

2018-07-29 21:52:43 UTC  

Hes gonna call a black waitress a nigger and get kicked off lmao

2018-07-29 21:53:17 UTC  

from what I've heard at AA meetings cold turkey is the only way to go

2018-07-29 21:53:33 UTC  

i think if youre as balls deep as alec you can have seizures from withdrawal cant you?

2018-07-29 21:53:47 UTC  

well im not familiar with alec but yes

2018-07-29 21:53:49 UTC  

like he could go into shock or some shit

2018-07-29 21:53:50 UTC  

it's horrible

2018-07-29 21:54:04 UTC  

how much does he drink a day

2018-07-29 21:54:15 UTC  

no clue, pretty sure its a fuck ton though

2018-07-29 21:54:15 UTC  

If ur a heavy heavy drinker and you stop all at once you die

2018-07-29 21:54:32 UTC  

Idk hopefull he could wean himself off

2018-07-29 21:54:34 UTC  

what makes you think it's a fuck ton?

2018-07-29 21:54:52 UTC  

because i watched a movie with him while i was a liter in and he was more fucked up than i was

2018-07-29 21:55:00 UTC  

if he's bad enough he'll get a condition where his brain holds more alcohol then blood

2018-07-29 21:55:11 UTC  

my brother is an alky

2018-07-29 21:55:32 UTC  

he's 6'2 200 lbs and he would get absolutely belligerent from 2 deucers

2018-07-29 21:55:46 UTC  

most people don't get sober off alcohol until hitting rock bottom several times

2018-07-29 21:55:59 UTC  

if they continue hitting rock bottom, that's not rock bottom

2018-07-29 21:56:04 UTC  

kinda the point of rock bottom

2018-07-29 21:56:12 UTC  

I guess so

2018-07-29 21:56:28 UTC  

like if you end up in the hospital multiple times and keep doing it

2018-07-29 21:56:31 UTC  

your rock bottom is death

2018-07-29 21:56:43 UTC  

For some people that's the case

2018-07-29 21:56:48 UTC  

yea

2018-07-29 21:56:50 UTC  

it's sad

2018-07-29 21:57:14 UTC  

My parents put me in rehab for casual drug use and I saw some really fucked up people

2018-07-29 21:57:15 UTC  

this chat is making me not want to drink tonight 👀

2018-07-29 21:57:20 UTC  

i dont understand why it doesnt work the same for him

2018-07-29 21:57:23 UTC  

but tbh we need to either cure addiction or cull people with high tendency for addiction

2018-07-29 21:57:38 UTC  

dopamine blockers do wonders for heroin I think

2018-07-29 21:57:58 UTC  

there's a drug that removes that feeling of getting drunk and just gives you a hangover

2018-07-29 21:58:01 UTC  

Ive drank like 6 times in the past 3 years lmao

2018-07-29 21:59:04 UTC  

The problem with just blocking the feeling of getting high/drunk is these people don't want to deal with their emotional traumas

2018-07-29 21:59:15 UTC  

so they're prone to stop taking the blockers

2018-07-29 21:59:56 UTC  

Meditation / mindfulness / cognitive behavioural therapy