Message from @Ivan Smakobich

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2019-06-11 20:48:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371875015018283009/588107204184244234/swastika.png

2019-06-11 20:48:25 UTC  

Really though, can somebody here explain how the Nazi usage of such a common and old symbol ruined it for everyone without just blaming Jews?

2019-06-11 20:48:47 UTC  

Like, holy fuck it does not compute.

2019-06-11 20:48:52 UTC  

It didn't ruin the symbol

2019-06-11 20:48:59 UTC  

It was portrayed as a symbol of hate

2019-06-11 20:49:03 UTC  

by obvious actors

2019-06-11 20:49:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371875015018283009/588107467582341142/images.png

2019-06-11 20:49:28 UTC  

It made it basically impossible to use in any form in the West, which is kind of ruining it for a lot of people.

2019-06-11 20:49:48 UTC  

Even the Hindus can't get away with it over here now.

2019-06-11 20:50:05 UTC  

Yeah they can

2019-06-11 20:50:17 UTC  

I bought brass hindu swastikas on fucking amazon

2019-06-11 20:50:22 UTC  

that i have hung in my room

2019-06-11 20:50:54 UTC  

Yeah, and I have a Nazi flag with five of the damn things on it.
Neither of us would go out with these things showing, though.

2019-06-11 20:51:06 UTC  

Availability does not mean acceptability.

2019-06-11 20:51:39 UTC  

I've met a couple of Hindu guys who've mentioned wanting to wear swasis but being heavily advised against it by their own families here in Australia.

2019-06-11 20:51:54 UTC  

who cares what people think

2019-06-11 20:51:56 UTC  

wear it

2019-06-11 20:52:06 UTC  

truth does not care about social acceptance

2019-06-11 20:52:06 UTC  

lol

2019-06-11 20:52:18 UTC  

don't dress as a nazi out and about

2019-06-11 20:52:32 UTC  

No shit.

2019-06-11 20:52:51 UTC  

i've worn a shirt that had a black sun on it in a public place while tripping on acid and no one said anything

2019-06-11 20:52:59 UTC  

who cares

2019-06-11 20:53:03 UTC  

noone knows what a black sun is

2019-06-11 20:53:10 UTC  

Dammit, you beat me to it.

2019-06-11 20:53:13 UTC  

anyone who does wouldn't care

2019-06-11 20:53:14 UTC  

youd be surprised

2019-06-11 20:53:24 UTC  

this was an antifa heavy area

2019-06-11 20:53:30 UTC  

they had a bar we walked past

2019-06-11 20:53:38 UTC  

we were gonna go in it and start yelling

2019-06-11 20:53:51 UTC  

but we were way too high to deal with the consequences of that

2019-06-11 20:54:22 UTC  

You'd be very lucky to go out wearing a swasi and not get bashed or at least heavily threatened.
But to be fair, it is very different here. We have people who are perfectly willing and able to beat someone up and risk jail time over a symbol.

2019-06-11 20:54:46 UTC  

With their faces fully visible, on CCTV.

2019-06-11 20:55:52 UTC  

Oh same here

2019-06-11 20:56:01 UTC  

But the difference is being in a group

2019-06-11 20:56:10 UTC  

Also @zuckerbergfan I've gone out dressed as a Luftwaffe officer sans swastikas before with no issues. Turns out you can totally go out dressed as a Nazi if you just remove the one symbol people actually recognise.

2019-06-11 20:56:54 UTC  

lol fair m8

2019-06-11 20:57:12 UTC  

Probably helps that the other main "strange" getup people see me in is a mixture of Communist surplus from various countries.

2019-06-11 20:57:59 UTC  

Best part is that a black hat with a red star on it gets me called a Nazi far more often (Damn close to a 100% difference, in fact) than anything German I have.

2019-06-11 20:58:10 UTC  

tbh i'd be less likely to see a guy in full nazi uniform as a nazi than a guy just with a swastika. full uniform and it's fancy dress

2019-06-11 20:58:48 UTC  

Literally two people have identified my M43 cap as what it is, one was a British boomer who would have learned all about the war in school, and the other was an old German bloke.