@SOTGOR so we shouldn't try to do things to make everyone better?

we should try but what your suggestion is the complete removal of the entire progression of western society

the best nations on earth are ones where less government is involved in things

but no nation exists with no hierarchy or government

But... but... what about communism? 😮 XD

Anarcho Capitalists expect heirarchy

I'm not against Hierarchy

provided it's voluntary

so what is your ideal government

where does the line get crossed from hierarchy to government?

I'm a minarchist

define that for me

i am unfamiliar with that term

If I was king of the world, I'd roll back government to the minimal involvement possible

so you have no issue with government

if that turned out to be 0, it would be 0

I think, pragmatically, government might be neccesary

but it has to be as small as possible

and I won't deny that it is a violent gang

what nation do you live in?

australia

lol

have you ever experienced violence at the hand of a representative of australia?

ppl in vc is on a roll

@AiarUther even still the argument that taxation is theft is mute if there is no goal behind making it

@SOTGOR I have paid taxes

so yes

#NoLivesMatter

@AiarUther have you ever driven on roads?

@SOTGOR it's a statement of fact, no more no less

but there is a reason you are making it, why?

because it's true?

I like saying true things

truth is meaningless with lack of purpose

God doesn't exist, is also true

what is truth? if it is not to have an impact?

but do you agree it's the truth or not?

which taxation is theft or god doesnt exist?

i assume the first one

Well the first one, but you can argue the second one, as well, if you choose.

well i would rather enjoy that, but yes i agree with the first premise tentatively, i do not belive it is enough to argue against the pragmatic arguement