yeah my machine is a bit of a potato otherwise, and when i play games and use discord chat, my FPS is shit. if i turn off discord, its all fine

According to my partner who is a games animator Unity up until very recently used the CPU for everything pretty much

Pissed him right the hell off

and as for idle CPU usage by discord, it's using 15% for me and literally nothing else is using that much CPU right now

not even doing anything and it spikes up to 25%

isn't discord cloud based?

about 1% for me

obv

as we've been talking out before, Discord's based on Electron

aka aids.js

whether it's cloud based or not doesn't matter

it's still electron based

yes the data and everything would be stored in the cloud, and there is a backend to transfer messages, voice streams etc. but you still have a client running on your machine

and that client is poorly optimized

oh god what is this electron this looks horrific

javascript html and css

yes

welcome to the "modern" desktop app

not only that, but the discord client itself is 32-bit yet the installer forces you to use a 64-bit system even if the software doesn't 👏 👏 👏 👏

who made discord anyway

What effect can that have on performance?

a bunch of code bros who didn't like slack or skype?

well

discord being 32-bit is actually a good thing

because it can access/address less memory

heh

32-bit software actually runs slightly faster than 64-bit too, but due to architecture optimizations in modern processors, the effect is not really noticable

generally speaking, it's best if you compile your software for both 32-bit and 64-bit systems

but of course in the case of discord, the 32-bit/64-bit issue is mostly Electron's fault specifically, the people who made Electron probably have no idea how to use a compiler

and honestly I don't blame them, it takes over 30 hours to compile Chromium, why would you bother?

node.js has some pretty decent binding systems for calling into native libs, i wonder if they actually use it

What is compiling?

.exe

z80 can handle this one

compilation is the translation of high level code into assembly code your system can understand

lol

Your turning the data into something readable?

python however, is not a compiled language. it is itself a complex program that scans and executes your code on the fly. usually called an "interpreter"

aka you go from a hello world program to a bunch of 64-bit or 32-bit instructions the system will understand, so when you open your compiled file up into a hex editor, you'll only see something like.. `<insert random garbage here, too lazy>`, because it's nothing like your normal code

interpreters do compiling on the fly, JIT interpreters do compiling ahead of time

JIT interpreters, in rare cases, can actually be faster than compiled languages