https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpoUtzedVWk

Volkswagen AG has more Nurburgring lap time records than any other brand, including the current fastest. Keep in mind these are the people who make Porsche.

all modern VW's have Audi engines and they're usually the same ones put in Audi cars so its not rare to be able to bump up your VW by 50-100hp simply by swapping in some Audi parts.

oh, and Lamborghinis are VW products too, and not just in name either, they've audi TSI V10/V12's.

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OLVFa8YRfM

@radeon When did Lamborghini drop their 40 year old V10?

they haven't used the exact same engine for 40 years

Alright, it's the battle of the North Atlantic boys:

2017/8 V8 Vantage, vs Mustang.

its the same engine as the R8

@radeon Hmm, thats a bit of a letdown I guess. Not exactly living up to their Italian heritage

602 bhp, its also the fastest lamborgini on the ring.

third fastest car around the nurburgring is the V10 making 631 hp

and to be clear, that is faster than *all* ferraris

vw and their ownership of other brands has lead to the boring corporate snoozewagons being so prevalent, almost everything being made by the vw umbrella is soulless corporate cash grabs. While lambo might be more reliable now, they're much more boring, the urus is an insult to the brand, most of audis lineup is reskinned vws with awd options, bentley is now the automotive equivalent of designer handbags, porsche are the only ones with any individuality left really and that's because the outright ownership is also the most recent and convoluted

oh and then there are the side companies; seat and skoda which just sell polos, golfs and passats with different shapes

also nobody knows how fast ferraris are because they cheat on all the testing

they put goddamn slicks and road legality breaking ecu tunes on their test cars, it's complete bs

Cannot say about seat or skoda, but the rest makes little sense.

The Urus is the result of customer demand.

Have you _seen_ the sales figures of the Cayenne and Macan?

Not to mention theor profit margins.

Lamborghini was never a mass market brand, vw have decided to impose that on them

by reskinning a toureg and selling it with a badge tax

Maybe so, and if they go that route fully it will be a big mistake

Having an entry level car isnt a mistake tho

I don't blame them for doing it from a financial perspective, but no car enthusiast should be supporting this behaviour

Also, man, the friggen Cayenne is a reskinned Toaureg

Try telling that from driving i
One

and I doubt it will be a mistake; the majority of people buying supercars these days aren't buying them to drive them, they're either buying investments or buying badge status

These days?

This is a new thing?

It really is not.

the people who bought f40s and f50s and countaches often bought them for driving thrill

not for status or investment

And the people who bought Jonkheere Coupes?

You think they bought them because they liked how they drove or because they were a mobile status symbol?

Much like Bentley and Rolls Royce today.

That's why Ariel Atoms are a thing now: Driving enthusiasm

uh

Cars have gotten faster. Besides that, nothing has changed

back then buying a rolls royce was buying luxury and reliability