Id love to see an engine out there that was released with all the bugs fixed

I certainly dont know of any off the top of my head

Most of the historical problems with Cummins engines were had when people went above and beyond their intended purpose, pushing 700-1000hp on stock internals.

This 5.0 is having issue right off the line

Eh

2007 to 2010 5.9s had issues

Frankly so did the 6.7 when it first came off the line iirc

Its rock solid now, but it didnt used to be

The europeans here probably have no idea what we're talking about lol

Probabaly

Anyone in south america or dubai wouod tho

They love the 5.9 in dubai

I'm not sure how many diesels you guys have driven but it doesn't make for an exciting drive

yes they're torquey as fuck but that doesn't translate to an enjoyable driving experience

they're noticably rougher, even the new ones, if you pair them with manuals you often find yourself needing to shift at the kind of points petrol becomes fun

all the power is low down, they don't rev high

and also, almost every diesel ends up with at best iffy handling characteristics

because diesel lumps are fucking heavy as shit

so you end up with poor weight distribution and suspension setups that aren't conducive to exciting driving to deal with the weight

the only "sporty" diesel that would have been interesting was the v12 diesel they investigated dumping into the r8

but again, the engine itself and the behaviour of diesels isn't what you really want in performance cars

Yeah, I haven't driven any small displacement diesel cars. Only trucks with huge torque numbers

wait, I take that back

VW jetta TDI

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don't get me wrong, diesel engines are fantastic for shitbox econocars and obviously the only real option for serious haulage

but they are not the kind of thing you want from anything sporty/performance

Eh, to each their own

I can't think of a car that isn't for heavy duty stuff that is better in diesel form

at least from a driver perspective

Mercedes 300d

Oh, driver perspective

the best comparison I can think of is the golf gti vs gtd, it's generally fairly difficult to compare even diesel options against petrol counterparts though because they aren't quite for the same kind of buyers

I'd take the gti over the gtd any day

remove the fact it's faster in petrol form, it still sounds and drives better

I'd take the diesel. VW diesels have a good track record, and the mileage is better

Sound is relative

I actually like the gti better for everything except sound

And you're not buying a VW for speed lol

I enjouly diesel noise

Enjoy

But no, they are not for the same buyers