Oh, driver perspective

the best comparison I can think of is the golf gti vs gtd, it's generally fairly difficult to compare even diesel options against petrol counterparts though because they aren't quite for the same kind of buyers

I'd take the gti over the gtd any day

remove the fact it's faster in petrol form, it still sounds and drives better

I'd take the diesel. VW diesels have a good track record, and the mileage is better

Sound is relative

I actually like the gti better for everything except sound

And you're not buying a VW for speed lol

I enjouly diesel noise

Enjoy

But no, they are not for the same buyers

if you don't buy it for speed you don't buy the gti/gtd

both are basically performance versions

But some people like their speed down low

Like me.

if you want economy, you get one of the economy models

I almost never go past 4k rom on my cruze.

GTI guys buy it to be 'Euro-ricey'

I love low end torque and surging midrange haul

From what i understand, the gtd is damn good at that

And 180hp is more than enough with dynamics like that

but still slower than the gti

So?

and still handles worse

because of the engine weight

But still handles well enough

So again

So?

diesel engines mean understeer

lol you're not buying a race car

Dont care

why would you buy something that is literally worse when something better is available?

Like, why would you actively make the choice to get the worse option?

Because i would never drive the car to its limit anyway

Below its limit, the gtd would be more enjoyable

if a car is worse at its limit, it's also going to be worse below the limit

I am beginning to think you dont get that different people value different driving dynamics and features differently

I might go 90mph once in a while in a VW. The rest is just fucking around town

you are making the assumption that the diesel will suit your current driving style better

Well yeah

I do a ton of highway driving, as long as it handles WELL then idgaf about handline, and i orefer low end power