On what list?

Just above fiat

What are you referring to?

Most notably consumer reports. I will grant you that any reliability listing is questionable tho

Even so, i hear nothing good about modern mercs

Except in performance and comfort

They're above Ford on both JD Power and Consumer Reports' current lists, nowhere near Dodge, Consumer Reports also didn't rank Fiat at all.

Might be from a few months ago then

I'd also like to see a breakdown of mercedes reliability in terms of cars vs suvs

my guess is their suvs are wrecking their reliability

That is a worthy question.

I mean these reports are annual.

And I'm looking at the most recent one.

because the c and e class are both very well rated for reliability

They don't put out annual reports every few months.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/

The last time i looked at those was when i was looking for a car

Last year

Link what you're actually talking about to make it easier.

Ergo...

That's the current one.

I could try to find it. The one i saw was in print tho

It also shows the point changes from the last one.

Was reading it while on break

http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/jd-power-2018-us-vehicle-dependability-study Both of these have pretty similar results.

Eh will concede

May have been thinking of their suvs and remembering incorrectly

Well I mean just link even some evidence to support your statement because it makes no sense to me and I've been following this stuff since the early 90s.

Amd i follow it sporadically unless i am looking for a car.

Using Consumer reports or JD Power to buy a car is shit you shouldn't be doing under the age of 60

@sexytortoiseloverboy i dont view them as gospel.

The fact that they even still exist is insane

It's such a huge scheme

There is nothing wrong with using them as a single data point.

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Okay not even arguing that one

You keep on thinking that

I mean it is

K

I only use jalopnik for buying vehicles

They do these "reports" and sell their brand to automotive companies