I mean it's not best on any type of car, trucks sure, RVs, anything towing a trailer, good, terrible on a car.

and have morons throw doors open into

and stuff like that

Cocaine you're my kinda guy

And my kinda drug

haha

Unless you like being able to pull from any gear. @Matt

You know who drives diesel trucks?

Queers

And average 60mpg

I honestly wish they offered more diesels here.

Pull from any gear? Sounds like code for a rub and tug operation

I _do_ get why they don't. but I don't like it.

I'm surprised they don't

You're in europe right?

Me? No

I'm in Misery

Missouri

Oh ok

Same thing

Not too many fags in missouri

also, realistically, diesels don't get the MPG you think they do

I mean pulling from any gear would work with any car that has a decent power to weight ratio and proper gearing. There's nothing magical about diesels, especially the ones found in cars, which are often reverse engineered gas engines rather than dedicated diesel designs.

the figures given out on diesels are total shit

Name one current production diesel car, not truck, which is really good.

Since this chat is called cars, not trucks and vans.

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/audi/a4-b8-avant-2008/20-tdi-136-ultra

this is the kind of deception manufacturers are guilty of

Good GOD that's a gay looking car

I'm not talking about reported fuel economy

Officially reported that is

well that gives you the "official" mpg and what owners are getting

Just for the sake of annoying matt

Yeah, the whole point of that link is real world fuel economy.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze?engineconfig_id=103&bodytype_id=&submodel_id=

The old 2.0L diesel cruze

Most people average 38 to 42mpg.

And this is an automatic and an older engine

Why would that annoy me?

I was being facetious

Because you got salty about me mentioning the cruze a ton