Ok, but what specific things are you talking about?

The idea of spec racing is just that, right? Demonstrate individual talent in a single vehicle

It has filtered down since the 1890s

To use a recent example

Freevalve

But I'd say even the majority of motorsports are about the tech

I couldn't tell you what fancy F1 tech is out there, but I definitely know what new tech the the production cars are getting

Iirc that was a racing thing only

Freevalve isn't used in any racing series

?

Thought there were series where the valves where camless

"High-performance, race oriented"

Pollygeist, who's your favorite F1 driver

Freevalve is a Koenigsegg branded technology that will first be applied in economy cars.

But so far has seen no real world application.

I.E. gay

I'm talking about the fact that we have things like ABS and traction control, carbon ceramic brakes and electronic diffs that all came directly from racing

Not to mention basically everything related to construction

Where did i dispute any of this?

Bearing in mind also that racing is a major impetus behind a lot of our understanding of aerodynamics and fluid dynamics as entire fields

Thats fine

Glad it exists

But my interest in it remains limited

Well our point is that motorsports are not a small arena, nor are they about the drivers really in a big part of it all.

Each advance was made in the spirit of competition. Of beating the pants off the other losers.

And it was displayed in spectacular fashion doing just that

Are you guys gonna get to what i actually said at some point?

Well it actually doesn't sound like you're super into internal combustion engines if none of the ones used in any form of motorsport are interesting to you.

Yes, I'm doing so right now.

I mean what you said is basically you don't care about innovation at all in so many words unless you can buy it personally.

"Your interest in combustion engines is not universal, therefore you are not interested"

No, that's not what I said.

No i suppose not

Right now Ferrari has some kind of voodoo magic working for them which is unseating the 4-years dominant Mercedes engines.

So can you stop doing that to me?

You said you think it's the best invention, but you aren't interested in the pinnacle of it at all.

Watching it unfold over the course of this F1 season is wild

Oh my fucking god

Limited interest means no interest now

Basically that's like saying you think the burger is the best food invention, but you don't want to ever eat a really good one.

Well, I don't.