It's just another mythology as far as I'm concerned

is the quran worse?

Some people can only read words.

Lol hit me with that esoteric bullshit fam 👌

The quaran is roughly just as bad

I've not read enough to really tell

"roughly", you clearly haven't read them both.

JBP's lectures show there's actually meaning beyond the words.

>Some people can only read words.
Sums up everything I'd have to say.

There's nothing spiritual in understanding that works of literature have meaning beyond the literal interpretation of the words used.

But do any of the words happen to contain reasonable evidence for the existence of supernature much less of a deity?

Because if they don't, I'm not interested

The fact that you think it's shallow is clear proof you lack the ability to interpret text.

The fact that you think it's shallow is clear proof you lack the ability to interpret text.

I guess it's you and Mittens that are on the "JBP is a fraud" club.

My nigga, I was literally *raised* on the shit, don't tell me I'm just interpreting it wrong

I never said jbp is a fraud

Honestly link me where Peterson gives a shred of evidence for god

Just one

I've heard the listen and believe song and dance a thousand times my dude

He doesn't give any evidence. He's quite clear when he says he's doing a purely psycho analytical interpretation of the text.

I'm done with esoteric bullshit I want hard evidence

The last thing I need is another sermon

@radeon

No worries, you can tip your fedora, we won't laugh.

I just laughed

***tips fursuit*** m'femboi

Let me put it this way, I trust a Christian's psychoanalysis of the Bible as much as I trust a Nazi war criminals definition of genocide

When you do a "I won't ever accept god exists as a matter of principle", you're not being rational. That was indeed one of Hitchen's most irrational arguments, appealing to his own morality.

I mean do you think it's coincidence that everyone who isn't already a Christian pretty unanimously agrees the bible is dogshit?

You can argue about not having proof, to Hitchens, not even Jesus coming in front of him and doing a miracle right there would have been proof.

Because it wouldn't be

Lol

I seriously doubt the "everyone" figure.

A dead Jew doing black magic would not prove a deity exists

The Bible is pretty crap as a philosophical text

Exactly, to Hitchens, atheism wasn't a positoin derived from reason, it was derived from principles. Therefore there's no rational path to unbelief, you just have to have faith on your unbelief, and try hard to rationalize it in any way you can.

Two words

Occam's razor