Message from Soyaman in /r/SargonOfAkkad (Sparta) #politics-free-for-all

2017-11-01 23:45:05 UTC  

But it still doesn't make it any less of a problem.

2017-11-01 23:45:56 UTC  

It really does

2017-11-01 23:46:27 UTC  

Well, less of a problem than you and others make it out to be

2017-11-01 23:47:02 UTC  

A problem doesn't become more or less of a problem because it's worse somewhere else in the world.

2017-11-01 23:48:57 UTC  

I might've used some overly harsh words, Brian.
But it's a threat to the fundamentals of western society values still.

It's something that needs to be looked at seriously.

2017-11-01 23:49:06 UTC  

And quickly too.

2017-11-01 23:49:55 UTC  

It's a steadily declining influence

2017-11-01 23:51:41 UTC  

Is it? Because it was recently put into a bunch of states.

2017-11-01 23:51:46 UTC  

Not the other way around.

2017-11-01 23:52:09 UTC  

That's interesting. Do you have a source for that?

2017-11-01 23:53:18 UTC  

It might've been in Louisiana.

2017-11-01 23:53:25 UTC  

Gonna have to look it up again.

2017-11-01 23:55:47 UTC  

That would make sense

2017-11-01 23:56:10 UTC  

Not a threat to national security though

2017-11-01 23:56:14 UTC  


2017-11-01 23:56:44 UTC  

Now who's on the wrong side of the fence?
It not being related to national security doesn't make it any less of a problem.

2017-11-01 23:57:14 UTC  
2017-11-02 00:14:56 UTC  

To me it does

2017-11-02 00:15:06 UTC  

National security is my primary concern

2017-11-02 00:15:22 UTC  

Shit. Then why not give up all your rights then.

2017-11-02 00:15:45 UTC  

It's easier to secure the nation if no one has any rights.

2017-11-02 00:20:38 UTC  

It's not necessary

2017-11-02 00:21:13 UTC  

And I would argue against the long-term security of an Authoritarian state

2017-11-02 00:24:43 UTC  

I don't understand what religion and national security have to do with eachother, good or bad.

2017-11-02 00:28:44 UTC  

A global caliphate would certainly compromise national security

2017-11-02 00:36:16 UTC  

But the original issue was religion in the United States

2017-11-02 00:38:42 UTC  

No it was a comparison between religion in the US and radical Islam

2017-11-02 00:43:13 UTC  

Soyaman went on to make that comparison to try to reinforce his point, and while I don't agree the two can be compared, I think the original issue still stands that religion in the United States still poses many problems even if they aren't necessarily threats to national security.

2017-11-02 00:44:44 UTC  

I agree with that

2017-11-02 00:44:53 UTC  

I'm no fan of delusion

2017-11-02 00:51:33 UTC  

I conceded the point that it's not a comparison to radical islam.

2017-11-02 00:57:58 UTC  

I know you have, I'm not trying to assign viewpoints to anybody. I'm just going back over what happened and trying to untangle the topics here, since they were getting a bit muddied together.

2017-11-02 01:03:22 UTC  

Religion poisons everything

2017-11-02 01:05:18 UTC  

I agree 100%

2017-11-02 01:06:16 UTC  

Unfortunately religion seems to be symptomatic of a deeper flaw that is faith

2017-11-02 01:51:12 UTC  

i think religion is a symptom of humans natural tribal desire for heirarchy combined with the best explanation of the universe a bunch of stone age people could create, thats been perpetuated throughout history by the mutually beneficial relationship between religion and state

2017-11-02 01:51:54 UTC  

I guess I mean mostly in its current embodiment

2017-11-02 01:52:00 UTC  

there literally wasn't anything close to a better explanation available, there are probably more atheists alive now than in the rest of human history

2017-11-02 01:52:12 UTC  

Once the statist and scientific aspects have been replaced

2017-11-02 01:52:29 UTC  

its an empty hull of blind faith and god of the gaps arguments

2017-11-02 01:52:34 UTC  

There are still foundations of wishful thinking, i.e. afterlife