Message from @Kunarian

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2018-01-13 07:03:37 UTC  

how about pre-history? in our evolutionary development, surely our G factor increased from our ape-like ancestors

2018-01-13 07:04:00 UTC  

as soon as we became "human," we all stopped?

2018-01-13 07:04:37 UTC  

what of the difference in IQ after the divergence of the races?

2018-01-13 07:06:34 UTC  

different environments caused a divergence of development in human beings

2018-01-13 07:07:09 UTC  

it would be surprising if everyone's IQ ended up being the same through their long period of separated development

2018-01-13 07:07:58 UTC  

Oh there's probably divergence

2018-01-13 07:08:00 UTC  

different environments resulted in different challenges to survival and different optimal social orders

2018-01-13 07:08:06 UTC  

but not enough to matter

2018-01-13 07:08:10 UTC  

resulting in different cultures

2018-01-13 07:08:53 UTC  

IQ is best considered on an individual basis really

2018-01-13 07:10:19 UTC  

does anyone have data on racial iq diffrences over time?

2018-01-13 07:10:21 UTC  

I disagree. Groups behave a bit more deterministically based on IQ

2018-01-13 07:10:59 UTC  

over recent history, maybe

2018-01-13 07:11:04 UTC  

Well let me ask you a question

2018-01-13 07:11:07 UTC  

look up the Flynn effect

2018-01-13 07:11:23 UTC  

Is IQ all that matters to a society's direction and decisions?

2018-01-13 07:11:44 UTC  

nope

2018-01-13 07:11:51 UTC  

no, I think personality is a factor as well

2018-01-13 07:13:07 UTC  

as well as a host of other things, like the historical narrative and philosophy which may form the basis of those decisions

2018-01-13 07:13:28 UTC  

however those two not necessarily independent of those traits

2018-01-13 07:14:12 UTC  

Yeah so they are factors

2018-01-13 07:14:20 UTC  

But how big a factor?

2018-01-13 07:14:47 UTC  

well, for example, Asians have higher IQ than Caucasians, but they are likely more collectivist due to a personality difference

2018-01-13 07:14:50 UTC  

because I'm pretty sure that the existing environment (society, economy, local land's resources) are bigger

2018-01-13 07:15:26 UTC  

well... the existing the environment was developed to a great extent by the people that live in it

2018-01-13 07:15:48 UTC  

that's a unique aspect of humans, we affect our own environment

2018-01-13 07:16:04 UTC  

to such a degree that it affects our evolutionary direction

2018-01-13 07:16:50 UTC  

what about the fact the communism is wide spread in Asia while orginating from eroupe.

2018-01-13 07:17:25 UTC  

it did not originate from Europeans.

2018-01-13 07:17:32 UTC  

It did

2018-01-13 07:17:33 UTC  

marxs?

2018-01-13 07:17:37 UTC  

but that's a side point

2018-01-13 07:17:52 UTC  

Marx was Jewish

2018-01-13 07:17:57 UTC  

wew

2018-01-13 07:17:58 UTC  

lad

2018-01-13 07:18:21 UTC  

but did the jews not inhrate a lot of europen genes by being there for a longtime.

2018-01-13 07:18:40 UTC  

The Ashkenazi Jews kept to themselves mostly

2018-01-13 07:18:59 UTC  

within other societies

2018-01-13 07:19:09 UTC  

to preserve their ethnicity and culture

2018-01-13 07:19:24 UTC  

k

2018-01-13 07:19:31 UTC  

leaving that point asside