Message from @nathan

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2018-02-05 03:22:11 UTC  

Pasting it here because it's relevant:
>Drake says research suggests that millennials especially will spend more on brands that support causes they care about.

2018-02-05 03:22:26 UTC  

That was a comment from a PR guy from T-Mobile.

2018-02-05 03:22:30 UTC  

I'm talking about how the minorities are a harder minority in entertainment, not the silly anti-white SJW shit narrative you're talking about.

2018-02-05 03:23:13 UTC  

It's almost shocking to see them being so honest about it.

2018-02-05 03:24:10 UTC  

Well, radical left opinions are becoming much more normal and accepted thesedays.

2018-02-05 03:25:07 UTC  

People in colleges can call themselves socialists without being bullied to shit, I guess.

2018-02-05 03:25:46 UTC  

but that's aside from the point

2018-02-05 03:26:23 UTC  

The radical left operates on historical compensation, so in their mind "all black"(for example) is "diverse" to counteract historical "all white" in specific areas

2018-02-05 03:29:39 UTC  

They also have the unfortunate habit of perceiving "minority status" as "oppressed status". Hypothetically, they would see that since there are less, let's say, purple people, and they'd perceive that as oppresion and start a "purple lives matter" group to protest the lack of rich purple people, when purple people have nearly the same proportion of rich to poor as the orange majority.

2018-02-05 03:30:29 UTC  

Not a habit.

2018-02-05 03:30:36 UTC  

An ideology.

2018-02-05 03:30:53 UTC  

They combine sloppy reasoning with partial truths and create a false reality that they base their entire narrative off of.

2018-02-05 03:31:16 UTC  

There's no reason to come up with refined theories that would make their actions appear sensible. They aren't. As in, you're putting in way more thought than they are.

2018-02-05 03:31:49 UTC  

The saddest part of the whole thing is that most of them likely genuinely believe the shit they push. It's like Alex Jones or any of the other mad conspiracy theorists,

2018-02-05 03:32:33 UTC  

They don't analyze the unfortunate situation of black people and then conclude it's a class struggle. They **start** from the class struggle ideology, then try to shove everything into it.

2018-02-05 03:33:53 UTC  

If they did reach the class struggle conclusion from logical steps, they'd be able to argue something when challenged.

2018-02-05 03:35:29 UTC  

That does also make a lot of sense. I've been trying to understand what it is I'm missing about the progressive ideology. I thought that surely it isn't that they're just dumb, or manipulative, or willfully ignoring facts. How else could they have so much support?

2018-02-05 03:36:12 UTC  

I think what you're saying makes a bit more sense.

2018-02-05 03:39:40 UTC  

Watch Jordan Peterson, my dude. He breaks it down beautifully.

2018-02-05 03:40:26 UTC  

Understanding ideologies, specially the very destructive ones, is his specialty.

2018-02-05 03:40:52 UTC  

Yeah, I've seen a bit of his content, I'd consider myself a fan.

2018-02-05 03:44:28 UTC  

Watch it again. I watched many of his videos multiple times. I realized I just didn't get the simplicity of the words he was saying the first time I watched many of his videos. He really craft his sentences with precision.

2018-02-05 03:44:43 UTC  

When he says "it's simpler than that", he really means it.

2018-02-05 03:46:09 UTC  

Jordan Peterson is very good at saying things in a way that isn't condescending or rude, and the left could learn a thing or two about that from him.

2018-02-05 03:49:27 UTC  

Somebody (I think Crowder?) made the point, the left has no center. It's not that the "center" of the left is radicalized, it's that people that claim to be on the left, without reservations, are not even sure of how extreme their positions are, and are willing to go all the way if other leftists push them to it.

2018-02-05 03:50:00 UTC  

Or if they're confronted by conservatives, or even classical liberals.

2018-02-05 03:50:24 UTC  

I'd consider myself left-wing, but I try not to say that because it lumps me in with progressives.

2018-02-05 03:50:54 UTC  

You can see for instance when they talk about abortion. Crowder can easily push pro-abortion people to say the women have the right to abort a baby at 9 months pregnancy.

2018-02-05 03:51:21 UTC  

They get uncomfortable, but ultimately they accept that's the inevitable consequence of their ideology.

2018-02-05 03:52:07 UTC  

It starts "if a woman was raped, she has the right to abort", but very quickly becomes "it's never too late to abort."

2018-02-05 03:53:06 UTC  

I think it should be up to the mum if she wants to abort a 9 month old baby or not. It is their choice, is it not? The same way it's your choice to eat fast food until you have a heart attack, or to fuck with everyone in your college dorm until you have more STDs than fingers and toes.

2018-02-05 03:53:25 UTC  

So at 9 months, it's still not a baby?

2018-02-05 03:53:55 UTC  

The difference between eating yourself to death is, it's your life only that's being in danger.

2018-02-05 03:54:11 UTC  

I personally think it is a baby, but, I think it should be up to the mother to decide.

2018-02-05 03:54:43 UTC  

Should mothers have the right to kill their babies?

2018-02-05 03:55:46 UTC  

Should the mother have the right to take drugs and drink alcohol, and cause permanent damage to the baby's development?

2018-02-05 03:56:52 UTC  

No, because a baby is certainly another human. As long as the mother is not yet in labor, the baby is part of the mother, as far as the government is concerned. If the mother says the 9 month old baby is not a baby, the state can't insist it is.

2018-02-05 03:57:31 UTC  

So if it's inside her vagina, it's not a different life that deserves protection?

2018-02-05 03:58:26 UTC  

Mothers are already (in practice) allowed to take drugs and such and fuck up their kids, is there any way to prevent that without imprisoning mothers and forcing them to do things against their will?

2018-02-05 03:59:10 UTC  

Well, in practice, you can't stop a mother from tripping over a set of stairs and kill the baby by an intentional accident.

2018-02-05 03:59:46 UTC  

What is your point?