Message from @obrallaghan

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2018-05-24 07:07:37 UTC  

persuade you multiculturalism is good

2018-05-24 07:07:51 UTC  

i just read without re\ally reading proper

2018-05-24 07:09:10 UTC  

some cultures arent compatible and can cause a lot of problems if they are in close proximity, but for the most part I don't mind multiculturalism as long as there is a sense of nationalism

2018-05-24 07:10:02 UTC  

I'm thinking of Canadian style immigration, which uses a point system and requires either a sponsor or proof that you have 20k$ minimum to sustain yourself

2018-05-24 07:10:25 UTC  

Germany has gotten it wrong

2018-05-24 07:10:33 UTC  

to no one's benefit

2018-05-24 07:10:38 UTC  

DOes multiculturalism really need the 'Culture' part in how most people use it? Or is it just that there are alot people from various backgrounds who may still be adopting Home country norms and values?

2018-05-24 07:11:18 UTC  

i.e; Do certain expectation levels on intergration preclude a society from being multiculture?

2018-05-24 07:11:37 UTC  

wouldn't that just be multiracial

2018-05-24 07:11:51 UTC  

yes it does, because it is various cultures within one society

2018-05-24 07:11:53 UTC  

yeah but words dont exist and nobody says multiracial

2018-05-24 07:12:22 UTC  

well, culture means culture

2018-05-24 07:12:37 UTC  

Then I don't think we have any Multi-cultural societies

2018-05-24 07:12:47 UTC  

Or would a bi-cultural society count?

2018-05-24 07:12:59 UTC  

I disagree

2018-05-24 07:13:10 UTC  

bi means two...

2018-05-24 07:13:22 UTC  

but it depends on the region

2018-05-24 07:13:28 UTC  

Im more pulling on what are the neccesary and sufficient conditions for multi cultural

2018-05-24 07:13:36 UTC  

obviously large citys are more mixed

2018-05-24 07:14:21 UTC  

Yeha but every nation Prvilieges native norms and vales to some degree @Deleted User

2018-05-24 07:14:31 UTC  

well speaking from my experience, there are parts of my city that are majority sihk, mainland chinese, taiwanese, japanese, korean, indian, etc

2018-05-24 07:14:35 UTC  

that is multicultural

2018-05-24 07:14:51 UTC  

that is why I said that compatible cultures work out better

2018-05-24 07:15:24 UTC  

But i might be inclined to argue that that Privilegeing is incompatible with the claim #Multi-Cultural'

2018-05-24 07:15:34 UTC  

to me compatible just means proper vetting, people who demonstrate they can participate in the economy and society at large

2018-05-24 07:15:36 UTC  

regardless of whateher they are compatible or not

2018-05-24 07:16:10 UTC  

usually there is a majority culture, so they will be more represented

2018-05-24 07:16:30 UTC  

I think places where it is more split, might have more issues in that regard

2018-05-24 07:16:40 UTC  

Let me put it this way, I'm a brit and I'm given power over what classifies as an Integrated immigrant. So I say; Drinking Tea is a British value, people who don't drink tea are not British

2018-05-24 07:16:59 UTC  

Does not those kind of statements suggest the societies at BEST are reluctantly multicultural?

2018-05-24 07:17:03 UTC  

We need a proper definition of "culture" before we can argue about it.

2018-05-24 07:17:04 UTC  

multicultural societies just barely contained separatism

2018-05-24 07:17:16 UTC  

happy to go there @DanielKO

2018-05-24 07:18:07 UTC  

@Deleted User not here

2018-05-24 07:18:12 UTC  

but in some places yes

2018-05-24 07:18:19 UTC  

If you argue that "beating your wife" or "marrying a child" is just part of somebody's culture, then clearly we can't tolerate all cultures.

2018-05-24 07:18:20 UTC  

strict immigration is the only immigration

2018-05-24 07:18:27 UTC  

well, actually I think that you could say that is a british thing, and a mexican food place in britain would be a mexican thing

2018-05-24 07:18:42 UTC  

that is multicultural

2018-05-24 07:19:36 UTC  

I think i would argue that a prerequiste of Multi-culturalism includes strict limitations on integration expectaions AND must infer that ALL citizens are of the multi-cultural nation and not be a mexican thing

2018-05-24 07:19:39 UTC  

so many of my favorite people have been non-Anglo/western european. I don't buy this "in group preference" bullshit. white men are literally soy scum in this era.