Message from @Ruggwain
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Free markets and capitalism are almost synonomous
Not quite.
nope
free markets came way after capitalism
in any functional capacity
Capitalism isn't monolithic.
free markets are just an improvement on the capitalist system
There are many different ways to implement capitalism.
define capitalism
Private ownership, primarily in most things.
the only definition that make sense to me is "the free and voluntary exchange of property"
Where more socialism = more state ownership.
indeed
therefore socialism is a collectivist ideology
therefore leftwing
This is just libertarian v. authoritarian.
therefore alt-right a left wingers
Not left v. right.
>collectivism is left wing
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how isn't it?
collectivism is a thought process that can be employed by anyone unless they follow something like liberalism that speaks strictly against it
the terms left and right don't cover social policy
Political collectivism is about subverting the rights of the individual for the "good" of the collective
I see left v. right more as change v. status quo.
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well that's hardly measurable
It is.
Tradition is heuristics.
and a libertarian wouldn't care if individuals decide to live a traditionalist lifestyle
So?
and an authoritarian will maintain whatever status quo is most beneficial to maintaining his power
whether it's "new" or "old"
but my point is that being a left wing libertarian is a meme
it doesn't exist
It does.
It just isn't what's popular today.
oh it's popular indeed with people who think it exists
like ancoms and anti-fa
but when have ancoms and anti-fa been anything but authoritarians?
That is extremism, libertarian extremism.
Not left extremism.