Message from @Maw

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2018-07-07 23:35:16 UTC  

Local news

2018-07-07 23:35:35 UTC  

http://themediaplex.com/loot-boxes-gambling/ I wrote this during the EA shenanigan

2018-07-07 23:36:38 UTC  

if the writing feels a little stilted it's cause the editors are rigorous as hell

2018-07-07 23:36:44 UTC  

yeah ea and their dlc grinds my gears

2018-07-07 23:36:56 UTC  

by the time we're done with edits and rewrites any personal voice in our writing is more or less squished to make room for being objective and neutral

2018-07-07 23:37:02 UTC  

why isnt the font comic sans? triggered

2018-07-07 23:37:05 UTC  

heck u

2018-07-08 00:28:39 UTC  

Loot boxes are annoying, but, I don't understand why a law needs to be passed about it. (what I last heard)

2018-07-08 00:31:46 UTC  

gambling is illegal for minors, and if loot boxes are gambling, they are illegal for minors

2018-07-08 00:32:12 UTC  

Yeah, but that is a rather loose application of the word.

2018-07-08 00:32:20 UTC  

Honestly, I hate the damn things too.

2018-07-08 00:33:29 UTC  

i don't think it's loose

2018-07-08 00:33:37 UTC  

some lootboxes are straight out gambling

2018-07-08 00:34:12 UTC  

i dont understand loot boxes personally

2018-07-08 00:34:30 UTC  

i play videogames for the videogames not the cosmetics

2018-07-08 00:34:41 UTC  

In the past gambling was more about money being waged to get money back.

2018-07-08 00:35:03 UTC  

Under that thinking raffles should be banned. Not the exact same thing, but is paying money to maybe win something.

2018-07-08 00:35:13 UTC  

yeah]

2018-07-08 00:35:37 UTC  

Besides, if you are under 18 you are probably taking your parent's credit card, parents need to learn how to lay down some law themselves. XD

2018-07-08 00:52:18 UTC  

If the lootbox has no monetary value in the end, it can't be considered gambling.

2018-07-08 00:52:30 UTC  

That's in terms of actual law and implementation/lawyer interpretation.

2018-07-08 00:53:35 UTC  

true

2018-07-08 00:53:58 UTC  

You run into grey area with 3rd party markets tho

2018-07-08 00:54:06 UTC  

like for cs go

2018-07-08 00:54:12 UTC  

If the service itself allows you to sell items you win through a lootbox system, it will be considered gambling.

2018-07-08 00:54:27 UTC  

its a gray area

2018-07-08 00:54:42 UTC  

because the item is essentially valueless

2018-07-08 00:54:44 UTC  

Now, if people do this interaction themselves, against a terms of service between the lootbox company, then it's not considered gambling.

2018-07-08 00:54:53 UTC  

however 3rd party market sets a seperate value

2018-07-08 00:55:18 UTC  

As long as the third party is generally against the first party terms of service.

2018-07-08 00:55:41 UTC  

which is as simple as there is no in game market

2018-07-08 00:57:03 UTC  

parents need to control their own money anyways. PSN and XBox both let yet you place a seperate password to purchse. I dont know about blizzard, steam i think you can

2018-07-08 00:57:36 UTC  

I defenatly know it has a failsafe if the persons account is under 18

2018-07-08 00:57:44 UTC  

Parental controls have been a thing for quite a while.

2018-07-08 00:58:05 UTC  

PSN and XBox has it on over 18 accounts too

2018-07-08 00:58:24 UTC  

it helps against fraud. Like a purchasing 2 factor

2018-07-08 00:59:11 UTC  

My parental password would be something like: "Ibangedyourmom."

2018-07-08 00:59:46 UTC  

lol

2018-07-08 00:59:59 UTC  

You could use that argument with literally anything

2018-07-08 01:00:01 UTC  

My boys arnt old enough for it to matter yet

2018-07-08 01:00:07 UTC  

"What if they sell the prize to a random person?"