https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/09/pharma-bro-martin-shkreli-sentenced-to-7-years-in-prison.html

We don't all have good intentions

We dont need good intentions

taxes are theft so the only moral position is a society without taxes (stateless)

For ancap to work the way you want it to, yes

Only good intentions

Taxes are theft when you're paying into something that you're not taking advantage of, I agree.

But we take advantage of most things we pay taxes for right now.

@Maw No its still theft either way

Even if u use it or not

Cause middle men who take a cut

Im the steak at the top very tender

Taxation is a necessary evil

no it isnt

You have to prove that

BRB

Police need funding. Fire departments need funding.

A lot of public services need funding.

As I said before. Taxes aren't the price we pay for civilization. It's the price we pay for not being civilizated enough.

I pay roughly 30% tax sure. But I was hospitalized for 3 months

That stay cost me 300 dollars

With treatment

Thank fuck I pay tax

Fire department is a prime example.

There is literally no transaction for fire departments.

I think the police force is a better example.

Police make money, not enough, but they do make some.

Fire departments don't.

Oh btw, it was impossible to have a more expensive stay. I paid for the first month

Idk

To even think taxes are theft is legit dumb

Fire departments don't hand you tickets.

I'm not sure how I feel about socialized medicine

Fire departments are purely beneficial to society, and you don't have to directly pay them.

It's entirely publicly funded.

Maybe in countries I can't pronounce, but not in the west

Even then I'm not sure.

People seem to forget that socialized healthcare doesn't cover a lot of things.

E.g: Canada.

fire department and polica and all services can be paid for privately