Message from @Mips

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2018-07-31 16:39:36 UTC  

Or socialism/marxism.

2018-07-31 16:39:40 UTC  

but hey, doesn't work

2018-07-31 16:39:42 UTC  

@Mips arent a lot of ideals just that? Ideals.

2018-07-31 16:39:58 UTC  

Which would you be better off moving towards?

2018-07-31 16:40:19 UTC  

@Jaz (Raisu) well they are, but if people are gonna fight and argue for something, could be good if it was applicable

2018-07-31 16:40:36 UTC  

the freedom index shows that as countries move towards ancapism it becomes more proserous

2018-07-31 16:40:50 UTC  

*they

2018-07-31 16:41:01 UTC  

Well yes, the more libertarian somewhere is, the more anarchist it is.

2018-07-31 16:41:04 UTC  

That's... pretty basic.

2018-07-31 16:41:19 UTC  

I mean yeah, killing off africa in favour for sunny vacation spots sounds good too

2018-07-31 16:41:23 UTC  

and the better developed and prosperous it is

2018-07-31 16:41:35 UTC  

that was the point

2018-07-31 16:41:40 UTC  

I mean, capitalism was applicable in the past, but then corporations and government backed bullshit happened

2018-07-31 16:41:55 UTC  

and corporations will continue to do so

2018-07-31 16:42:03 UTC  

until stopped dead in their tracks

2018-07-31 16:42:20 UTC  

not if they dont get govt subsidies

2018-07-31 16:42:25 UTC  

and to think they'd stop because you ask them nicely won't ever happen

2018-07-31 16:42:32 UTC  

Now, yes, I agree, capitalism causes more growth. No argument there, but to say because of that, that the extreme version of capitalism would work is a bit... wonky in terms of logic.

2018-07-31 16:42:32 UTC  

Because trade is positive sum

2018-07-31 16:42:43 UTC  

^

2018-07-31 16:43:18 UTC  

money still has to be made in this utopia

2018-07-31 16:43:23 UTC  

and to do so

2018-07-31 16:43:28 UTC  

someone has to supply jobs

2018-07-31 16:43:47 UTC  

and that person probably will hire say 2-3 assistants

2018-07-31 16:43:55 UTC  

meanwhile, he himself is one too

2018-07-31 16:44:10 UTC  

Delegation.

2018-07-31 16:44:19 UTC  

work your way up the ladder and you have a fucking basic company

2018-07-31 16:44:30 UTC  

and if things go the way the proponents wish

2018-07-31 16:44:39 UTC  

they will need more people to do the same

2018-07-31 16:44:41 UTC  

and boom

2018-07-31 16:44:46 UTC  

a corporation is born

2018-07-31 16:44:58 UTC  

wtf, don't you guys live in the real world?

2018-07-31 16:45:14 UTC  

your sorry asses are still gonna be in a basement, only without the internet

2018-07-31 16:45:23 UTC  

No one is against something like that lol

2018-07-31 16:46:06 UTC  

5:59 PM] Wes "Shrimp Po'Boy" Savage: The Autrian, and Neoclassical schools along with some parts of the Classical School are based on evidence, historical records, and logical demonstration via logical arguments, the best sconomic schools, Laissez-faire is on record before it dies years ago the best economic model and it can even factor in various middle grounds, like labor unions, syndicates, cryptocurrencies if they're not set up like ponzie schemes, backed by gold, silver, and platinum group metals, and can even factor in scientific innovation if the government doesn't go into cahoots with corporate whores..

@Mips what form of capitalism?

There are MANY of them, several base forms, and then many derivatives of each form..

Some degrees of evidence and documents prove your argument of government funded research, but other areas corporate whores and feds interfered with other branches of scientific research if they can't pull a taxation scheme on it..

2018-07-31 16:46:22 UTC  

sounds like someone is against the evil corporate overlords

2018-07-31 16:46:46 UTC  

they might change names, but they will still be around

2018-07-31 16:46:52 UTC  

with more power to fuck shit up

2018-07-31 16:47:00 UTC  

Seriously though, all throughout history we've had prime examples of extreme systems being destroyed.

2018-07-31 16:47:03 UTC  

Within just the confines of what you presented, thats not an issue. The issue with corporations come from when they're supported and propped up by government

2018-07-31 16:47:26 UTC  

Be they extreme nationalists, internationalists, capitalist, and socialist.