Message from @Capitán Alatriste

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2018-08-09 01:33:54 UTC  

Same thing different name

2018-08-09 01:34:28 UTC  

Party control of industry and "privatization"

2018-08-09 01:34:39 UTC  

These were more to get workers to support the party rather than actually represent them

2018-08-09 01:34:46 UTC  

No

2018-08-09 01:34:49 UTC  

The key to socialism is the means of production primarily. Labor unions are counter that

2018-08-09 01:35:06 UTC  

The taxes where to gain support

2018-08-09 01:35:08 UTC  

Privatisation itself is completely anti socialist

2018-08-09 01:35:14 UTC  

Lol

2018-08-09 01:35:19 UTC  

It was mock privatization

2018-08-09 01:35:21 UTC  

Did you not see the quotes

2018-08-09 01:35:34 UTC  

he gave it to his internal henchmen and subserviants

2018-08-09 01:35:38 UTC  

"Privatisation"

2018-08-09 01:35:45 UTC  

after seizing it

2018-08-09 01:36:01 UTC  

The term would be corrupt captalism

2018-08-09 01:36:10 UTC  

Naw more corrupt socialism

2018-08-09 01:36:22 UTC  

because the gov still owned the means just via henchmen

2018-08-09 01:36:22 UTC  

They weren't state run

2018-08-09 01:36:33 UTC  

Party run

2018-08-09 01:36:36 UTC  

State run

2018-08-09 01:36:42 UTC  

And all planned

2018-08-09 01:36:42 UTC  

In time of total war they were, not during peace

2018-08-09 01:37:12 UTC  

Show me a socialist country that does not use the state to control the means of production and i will eat my shoe

2018-08-09 01:37:20 UTC  

Or party

2018-08-09 01:38:30 UTC  

Leather shoe would be quite the delicacy in Venezuela right now <:trumped:440551399772913674>

2018-08-09 01:38:39 UTC  

During their *peace time* he nationalized everything and did his sudo privatization soon before it

2018-08-09 01:38:51 UTC  

Well obviously I can't. During peace time the industry was privately owned by the industrial magnates that supported hitler for his antil socialist ideas. During the war when industry needed to be centralised for the war effort of course thr state took over

2018-08-09 01:38:58 UTC  

But the economy was planned to the month

2018-08-09 01:39:26 UTC  

Wasnt really anti socialist just a very specific kind

2018-08-09 01:39:31 UTC  

It wasnt for ideological reasons, more so to support the war effort

2018-08-09 01:39:35 UTC  

Is someone trying to defend socialism in this channel?

2018-08-09 01:39:47 UTC  

Part of why he was so impatient with the invasion of russia

2018-08-09 01:40:10 UTC  

the german economy was set to shift gears and the deadline was coming up. Many factories were already converted

2018-08-09 01:40:38 UTC  

No just someone trying to deny Hitler had a socialesque economy

2018-08-09 01:40:56 UTC  

Part of the *its not socialism* bs

2018-08-09 01:41:17 UTC  

He had certain socialist elements, but concluding that he was far left for it is a huge stretch

2018-08-09 01:41:19 UTC  

Hitlers system was quasi based on mussalini who made italy socialist.

2018-08-09 01:41:26 UTC  

Oh no

2018-08-09 01:41:35 UTC  

What threshold does it take to meet your definition of socialism?

2018-08-09 01:41:35 UTC  

Even mussolini wssnt far left

2018-08-09 01:42:01 UTC  

facism is about middle between communism and center

2018-08-09 01:42:24 UTC  

Hitler was slightly right of that mark The nazi party just left of him