Message from @Kscope
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Then thats irresponsible, your attempting to convince people of a point of view that you dont try to falsify
And they're doing the same
We're trying to falsify each other's opinion.
You're saying that the point of debate isnt to come to the most correct opinion possible, you're only concerned with convincing other people of your opinion
Going into a debate, EVERYONE'S objective, is to convince the other guy. That's how debates start.
No it isnt
My objective when going into a debate isnt to convince the other guy, its to discuss ideas and test them to see if they work
Fight breaks out between opinions, you both defend your sides, and a winner comes out. The other guy licks his wounds, and learns his lesson to come back again stronger
Adapt and overcome
So you think people should correct their opinions when they're proven wrong?
Yeah, no shit
So you DO care about coming to the most correct opinion possible, then you agree with my previous statements regarding debating people who dont truely hold the belief they're arguing for
Yes, to your first, no to your second.
I dont think you can hold the first one and not the second one while remaining consistent
Why not? I find people arguing someone else's' opinion disingenuous. I want a real opponent that will suffer actual consequences in their psyche when they lose.
Its irrelevant because if your goal is to come to the most correct opinion possible, whether the person you're arguing with actually believes what they're saying is irrelevant
To you
to you to
No? I just told you it makes ALL the difference to me if the person legitimately holds their opinion.
You're just making an ad hominem fallacy
I told you. The stakes are higher. *It's worth it.*
I dont know what that means
I want them to rage quit when they discover they're wrong.
Gotta have heart behind it.
If your goal is to come to the most correct opinion possible, then thats irrelevant
Well, then, no.
My goal with debating is to win.
If I want to be right, i'll discuss.
What is the difference between a discussion and a debate to you
Y'know, I'm having a hard time making that distinction right now. I guess it depends on what both parties want out of it.
Would you say that in a discussion the primary goal is to come to the most correct opinion while a debate the primary goal is to be right
For me, debates usually happen when I call someone out for something they said which is stupidly wrong
Yes
But in regards to the content of a discussion compared to a debate, what differentiates the two
Whether it bothers you or not, maybe?
Like, this is a discussion, because I honestly don't care about this topic.
I dont think we're gonna agree on this and I have to go, was fun talking
stay safe my dude
Any fellow Anarcho-Fascists here?
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