Message from @Deleted User

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2018-10-25 02:17:24 UTC  

If we have two people in conflict over their natural rights, then the only solution would be for one of them to come out on top, thus having the other’s rights violated

2018-10-25 02:17:41 UTC  

The third person is there to guarantee that both individuals’ rights are respected

2018-10-25 02:17:59 UTC  

And that one does not infringe upon the right of the other

2018-10-25 02:18:50 UTC  

Why do you assume that coming out on top = violating someone else's rights?

2018-10-25 02:19:42 UTC  

(But, tbh, you do come up on the modern qualms with natural rights in that assesment.)

2018-10-25 02:20:05 UTC  

I’m trying to find the right words to phrase it

2018-10-25 02:20:37 UTC  

But let’s say we have two people quarreling over their property rights

2018-10-25 02:21:08 UTC  

This quarrel can be resolved in two ways, one is that either one of them wins the conflict and comes out on top

2018-10-25 02:21:45 UTC  

You're conflating two aspects of the violence into one thing called "conflict"

2018-10-25 02:21:55 UTC  

Offense/defense

2018-10-25 02:22:50 UTC  

Anyway, in this violent conflict, if one beats the other into a pulp and wins, it violated the other’s right to for example their own physical safety

2018-10-25 02:22:58 UTC  

Don’t really know if I phrased that right

2018-10-25 02:23:05 UTC  

I get what you're saying

2018-10-25 02:23:28 UTC  

So in that outcome, at least one person will have their rights violated

2018-10-25 02:23:46 UTC  

Thus a third party is necessary to make a compromise or mete out justice

2018-10-25 02:23:57 UTC  

But: Rights are not granted, they are protected.

Every right comes with it an inherent responsibility

2018-10-25 02:24:07 UTC  

You have a RIGHT to life

2018-10-25 02:24:18 UTC  

You also have a responsibility to protect it

2018-10-25 02:24:43 UTC  

Attacking someone else unprovoked is denying that responsibility

2018-10-25 02:25:05 UTC  

That’s true, which is why I wanted to present the dilemma of the conflict

2018-10-25 02:25:26 UTC  

It wasn’t unprovoked, but both parties have equal justification for it

2018-10-25 02:25:40 UTC  

No such thing

2018-10-25 02:26:41 UTC  

So genuine question here: if life is a right and you have a responsibility to protect it, does failing that responsibility violate your right to life?

2018-10-25 02:26:49 UTC  

Pretty much

2018-10-25 02:27:04 UTC  

Or, forfeits it more like

2018-10-25 02:27:18 UTC  

Yeah I think forfeit is a better term

2018-10-25 02:28:04 UTC  

Anyway it’s late as fuck and I should’ve gone to bed hours ago, so goodnight

2018-10-25 02:28:07 UTC  

Been a pleasure

2018-10-25 02:29:13 UTC  

👌🏻

2018-10-25 02:49:26 UTC  

Be a player

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/504848938323673088/image0.jpg

2018-10-25 02:49:36 UTC  

Don't be an npc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/504848981080408064/image0.jpg

2018-10-25 02:49:39 UTC  

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2018-10-25 02:50:04 UTC  

<:oof:494878589406150657>

2018-10-25 02:50:20 UTC  

Good or bad?

2018-10-25 02:52:28 UTC  

Well, idk.

I'm considering running my future election campaign on nothing but <:oof:494878589406150657> moments and 'hot takes'

2018-10-25 02:53:38 UTC  

@jigantie nice boi

2018-10-25 02:56:40 UTC  

Thanks b

2018-10-25 03:38:41 UTC  

<:pepe_sweat:378719424548569088>

2018-10-25 03:39:30 UTC  

Came from a FB page called "Left of Liberal", so...

2018-10-25 03:40:47 UTC  

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