Message from @DanConway

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2018-10-30 02:05:36 UTC  

stahp <:pepe_why:378719408367075333>

2018-10-30 02:05:41 UTC  

The roman empire began the collapse due to shortages on food and cropping of disease. Europe went through a cold spell

2018-10-30 02:05:55 UTC  

Farming techniques and innovation skyrocketed after the fall of the Roman Empire

2018-10-30 02:05:57 UTC  

The viking raids for instance were due to this cold spell

2018-10-30 02:06:11 UTC  

The 3 cycle cropping

2018-10-30 02:06:24 UTC  

The aquaducts were dismantled for housing. How is that innovations?

2018-10-30 02:06:31 UTC  

the invention of a plow to be pulled by horses

2018-10-30 02:06:41 UTC  

The invention of the water mill

2018-10-30 02:07:10 UTC  

The aqueducts were an extravagance of the Urban

2018-10-30 02:07:20 UTC  

No point in having water go to a big city, when you can send it all to the farms along the way

2018-10-30 02:07:22 UTC  

The romans invented the horse drawn plaugh you nob

2018-10-30 02:07:25 UTC  

By the Han period, the entire ploughshare was made of cast iron; these are the first known heavy mouldboard iron ploughs. The Romans achieved the heavy wheeled mouldboard plough in the late 3rd and 4th century AD, when archaeological evidence appears, inter alia, in Roman Britain

2018-10-30 02:07:29 UTC  

It took wealth and centralized it in the cities

2018-10-30 02:07:31 UTC  

WRONG

2018-10-30 02:08:26 UTC  

wow, I didn't realize how much Pinker is a lying sack of shit

2018-10-30 02:08:29 UTC  

Key word here is HORSE drawn

2018-10-30 02:08:55 UTC  

It was horse drawn you nob

2018-10-30 02:09:42 UTC  

When was the fall of the Roman empire

2018-10-30 02:09:52 UTC  

mid 500s

2018-10-30 02:10:26 UTC  

It was not until the 900s that the Horse collar, horse shoe and plow were found

2018-10-30 02:10:40 UTC  

before that it was done by oxen

2018-10-30 02:12:31 UTC  

Sorry technicality they were oxen drawn but same bloody concept

2018-10-30 02:12:38 UTC  

No it is not

2018-10-30 02:12:47 UTC  

Horses could pull as much weight

2018-10-30 02:12:55 UTC  

but at twice the speed

2018-10-30 02:13:19 UTC  

But oxen didnt need the harnes

2018-10-30 02:13:27 UTC  

Harnes?

2018-10-30 02:13:32 UTC  

Harness

2018-10-30 02:13:36 UTC  

ahhhh

2018-10-30 02:13:54 UTC  

What up homies

2018-10-30 02:14:00 UTC  

it was a slower method

2018-10-30 02:14:08 UTC  

and it allowed the farmer more time

2018-10-30 02:14:21 UTC  

With the preference for oxen as engine of ploughing there was no real need to construct a harness system which would allow the horse to pull a plough. The major problem with using either the dorsal yoke or the neck yoke to harness an equid to a plough is really the point of attachment. In wagons and carts the point of attachment was reasonably far off the ground, whereas for ploughs it is almost at ground level.

2018-10-30 02:14:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/506652119416176650/les-chevaux-dalain-lapouge-en-plein-travail.png

2018-10-30 02:14:43 UTC  

Also romans had horse drawn carts they already had a form of harness

2018-10-30 02:14:44 UTC  

And the horse was an improvement

2018-10-30 02:14:52 UTC  

Not for PLOWING

2018-10-30 02:15:19 UTC  

we are talking about the Farming techniques that exploded in innovation after the Roman empire fell

2018-10-30 02:15:37 UTC  

Damn that's some trivia level stuff.

2018-10-30 02:15:43 UTC  

And how more food was produced in that timeframe after