Message from @Angus

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2018-11-10 10:17:27 UTC  

here are some places you could find that

2018-11-10 10:18:14 UTC  

I don't think the people in any modern country is going to willingly descend into this

2018-11-10 10:26:28 UTC  

Most of these (if not all) are either communes or the spoils of war-time activites

2018-11-10 10:27:21 UTC  

how do you propose 300 million people live in an anarchist community, a "communist" people, if you will

2018-11-10 10:27:23 UTC  

A better example of an individualist society that I advocate for would be Ireland from to years 600-1600 (ish)

2018-11-10 10:28:31 UTC  

like are you imagining out loud or are you saying that you think this is realistically viable?

2018-11-10 10:29:10 UTC  

because lots of ideologies work just fine in very small or primitive communities

2018-11-10 10:30:04 UTC  

Well everyone will act in accordance to their self-interest, you cannot defy your own will so to speak. Yet, it is in our rational self-interest to cooperate and partner with people to mutual benefit. These societies have existed in the past, and this is the most efficient and moral system we can devise. It is a fact that as societies move towards economic freedom from the state they become more prosperous (Heritage)

2018-11-10 10:30:09 UTC  

This is realistically viable

2018-11-10 10:30:42 UTC  

As all the tasks that the people say that the state "needs to do", can be done by private companies or individuals

2018-11-10 10:30:59 UTC  

anarcho-capitalism

2018-11-10 10:31:07 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-10 10:33:16 UTC  

are you serious

2018-11-10 10:33:20 UTC  

that you want that

2018-11-10 10:33:28 UTC  

Yes, I'm serious

2018-11-10 10:33:30 UTC  

and you think there wouldn't be problems

2018-11-10 10:33:37 UTC  

that are far worse than there are now

2018-11-10 10:33:41 UTC  

Like?

2018-11-10 10:33:53 UTC  

unhinged monopoly

2018-11-10 10:34:00 UTC  

slave labour

2018-11-10 10:34:31 UTC  

every company having a PMC to act in their interest

2018-11-10 10:34:56 UTC  

as some extremes

2018-11-10 10:35:24 UTC  

but how about I tone it back, there could be no small business as the larger companies would crush them, self actualization would be gone

2018-11-10 10:35:48 UTC  

there would be an irrevocable hierarchy of dynastic proportions

2018-11-10 10:36:56 UTC  

right now yeah, there's slave labour in the prisons, now with the capitalist monopoly we get "prison corp" and they just fuckin abduct people at a worse rate

2018-11-10 10:37:11 UTC  

who's going to stop them? "FBI corp"?

2018-11-10 10:37:19 UTC  

some sort of state army

2018-11-10 10:37:24 UTC  

that not longer exists

2018-11-10 10:37:25 UTC  

a militia?

2018-11-10 10:38:08 UTC  

can the local militias stand up to the highly funded and armed PMC that comes and cleans out a rural area and puts shock collars on everyone in order to get them to produce cow meat only for them?

2018-11-10 10:38:30 UTC  

the mcdonalds group came in today, said we work for them now

2018-11-10 10:38:43 UTC  

stole all our guns and burned down a couple houses to make it stick

2018-11-10 10:38:57 UTC  

"Unhinged monopoly" Monopolies are impossible in a free market as a competitor is always ready to jump into the market and offer a service better and cheaper, this happens all the time even now. "Slave labour" Slaves, even though cheap, are a remarkably unproductive and not a very viable business plan. Sure there may be some slaves hidden from view, but atm everyone is a slave to the state anyways. And I'm sure that the market would very quickly discard of companies who's practice they disagree with, like slave owners. Wdym by a "PMC"?

2018-11-10 10:39:19 UTC  

private military contractors

2018-11-10 10:40:26 UTC  

who's going to be the competitor when mcdonalds declares open warfare on all the other competitors and annihilates them since they can pay the most

2018-11-10 10:40:35 UTC  

Well then we'd go back to a state, and seeing that this new govt would learn from the mistakes of the old the likelihood is that it would be a better one. By playing the anarchist gambit you would get a state better or equal to the one now

2018-11-10 10:40:39 UTC  

then once everyone is gone they lower the wage

2018-11-10 10:41:05 UTC  

companies are not trustworthy

2018-11-10 10:41:12 UTC  

they will do whatever it takes to get more